Ed_Haynes

No, your eyes don't play tricks . . .

What's so special . . . ???

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Here's a pretty little early document:

Thanks for the identification. It sounds like these medals were all anniversary medals? Were these medals given to everyone who was in the military at the various time periods?

Precisely. Just for being in service (including police) on the appropriate dates.

And like the Arctic Medal, the suspension was very prone to breakage.

Yes, literally within weeks of the first medals being sent out to Indian Army regiments, they were being sent back for repair with nasty notes from regimental adjutants about the stupid design. Eventually, the government refused to undertake such repairs, telling all who wrote in just to "do it themselves". The Calcutta Mint dodged it all by saying, "we didn't design them, we didn't make them" (it was one Victorian medal NOT made in Calcutta for distribution to the Indian Army).

The only enameled ribbon bar I have ever seen (or heard of). Obviously, some home-assembly was required, but . . .

Honorary Medal of Combat, "We Won", 25 Years of MPR

Dirty, but "character-imbued".

For those who like backsides (back sides?):

Very very interesting. Compare to the ribbon bar posted by Christed, above, at

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6241&st=4

A relative?

1- Tamgah-i-Pakistan / The Pakistan Medal (the "Independence Medal"), on ribbon for ten-year service medal

2- Tamgah-i-Sad Saala Jashan-i-Wiladat Quaid-i-Azam / Medal for the Centennial of the Quaid-i-Azam [Muhammad Ali Jinnah, 1976]

3- Hijri Medal 1400 [1979 C.E.]

4- Democracy Medal

Missing, and a very bad sign that it is missing, is the Tamgha-i-Jamhuria 1375 / Republic Medal, 1956.

#1761, 12 November 1968

The first document I've seen with a "no photo required" stamp?

But to a Soviet (?). (Name??)

Here's an interesting documented medal, just unpacked from travels:

Interesting group. Without a Republic Medal, the group smells "made-up" though.

The medal . . .

For Brits it was separately struck on the reverse with unique naming for each recipient. For Indians (like this) it was engraved.

Medal for Unselfishness

My advice: buy Dr B's book

I would second Bob's good advice. Be warned, however, that it will soon be hard to find. Out of print, out of stock with the author. And no second edition is to be anticipated anytime soon.

You may also want to glance through the various threads here.

This is a dangerous medal, the only Mongolian award to have been faked in significant numbers, so take care.

I might also suggest you await promotion from "probationary", for posting images. It seems you have them on your (slow) server (in PRC, I assume), rather than on the forum, and this leads to a situation where it takes FOREVER for the images to load, and many viewers simply may not have the patience to wait such a long time.

Yes, a nice one!

Or the Mongolian State Vault is now called the "Ed Haynes Residence" - when are you going to share all the goodies you've picked up on your travels - whether awards or simply more information!

When I get back . . .

Jan,

This raises the danger of seriously duplication of effort here. While I shall maintain my list for my own information, maybe posting it here will be confusing? Though I think the list posted here is extremely confusing and merges two tasks rather haphazardly.

I was going to update and post a new expanded list when I get back, but I see no reason to reinvent multiple redundant wheels.

Shall make my list available, someway, eventually. Many changes will be there.

Can't just be the state vaults which have dried up...

Precisely!

Until VERY recently, booklets have been retained by the families or otherwise separated. While many that we have seen recently are unissued items from that flood from the state bank, many were issued. Only a more detailed look at the booklets will give us a sense of the issued ranges.

Nice post, many thanks. I always like learning about new things, and South Africa is especially complex, especially with the transition in awards ideology and iconography from apartheid to post-apartheid. It is always interesting to see how such political and social changes are reflected in the awards.

Thanks again!

Setting aside the fact that many (most?) Mongolian awards make their way to us with screw-backs that may not the their originals . . . .

The same "erased" plate is also seen in the first type of the herder badges and on many other early badges. While I doubt there is any political agenda at work here, it is not an uncommonly observed item. The signficance? I have no clue.

As we start to think beyond types and the Battushig "alphabet" (C, D, E, F, etc.) and start to think about the badges generationally (for example, which have what I think of as the "pin and spring" reverse pin?), new sorts of patterns may begin to emerge?

Nice one.

Welcome back to Mongolian awards.