Ed_Haynes

Ed,

With the central medallion with the coat of arms completely off center as visible on the obverse pic, and the resoldered rivets as visible on the reverse pic, I suppose it's obvious it was fixed by the local craftsman.

Dolf

My point precisely!

Beauties.

Coming in a "friendly neighborhood auction"? Need to "restore" one (and - - a Crown of India) in a broken group (thanks, Nimrod).

Looks "fixed" to me. There are worse fixed awards on these threads. much as one might "fix" their dog?

When the central device fails and fall off, have the local "craftsman" (term used loosely?) repair?

Nice to see that one again, Jan!

Lovely eye-candy! Many thanks!!

Nice, thanks for posting. Assume these are both with Mongolian (rather than Cyrillic) legend on obverse.

So far as I know, differences in rivet size do exist and are likely no more than variable manufacturing. With two serial numbers so far apart (the recorded range for this Type 2.1 is 57 to 2831), I'd not be surprised to see such variation.

Thanks again for posting!

No not any known Syrian. I'd suggest Sudan, but we know sooooo little about Sudanese ODM. Let me squint at the scan for a bit.

Fascinating. And something to ponder.

I am, however, uncertain how far down the road of varieties and sub-varieties to go, unless we can get discrete serial number (and date?) blocks. (These are some way off for now.) When do types and varieties give way to simple variation in the manufacturing and numbering process? What is real is what is "noise"? When does this process become pedantic and anal-compulsive?

Obviously we don't know yet. But some day we may build enough examples on this forum to allow us to decide where these lines fall.

As I said, much to ponder, Jan! Thanks for making life difficult. I love it. I really do!

Lovely photos, Christophe. Thanks!

Interesting. Quite interesting!

It could well be Sudanese, as the ribbon seems to be the old Anglo-Egyptian period Long Service and Good Conduct Medal ribbon, but this would have been long obsolete by the period this group/medal seems to represent. The medal is unknown/unrecorded.

Any chance of a closer scan?

Nice one, Glenn!

The name of the US medal is the "Medal of Honor". If pedants wish to misspell it, so be it.

Much as it is the "Order of the Companions of Honour", not "Honor".

As Dave says, once you start translating names into English, you can spell things any way you wish since the name in English is, intrinsically, wrong.

Thanks for posting these documents, Jan!

Now that is what I would term esoteric.

Why? It is actually one of the more common Nepali medals.

Here is one for everyone, I am hoping Ed or one of our other exotic buffs will have a clue. I figure it has to be from the middle east or gulf region but I really don't know. Looks like some kind of training medal for navy pilots maybe?

Looks Thai from the suspension clasp.

The ribbon would appear to be that of the Freeman Safeguarding Medal (whatever that is).

See: http://www.coleccionesmilitares.com/cintas.../tailandia2.gif

Have no idea what the goat is for, though it is surely nothing official. The Shubha Rajyabishek Padak for the 1956 coronation of King Mahendra Bir Bikram Shah Dev is surely an attractive medal!

Welcome to Nepali medals!

So, it will be my turn now... I have to think about a good question...

Do so, please. But before or after the football??

With a lot (a LOT) of help from JC (fjcp), here is an updated effort at understanding these delightful little things.

Type 1.1 (Mongol legend, crude construction, mirror reverse, integral number) - Low 9/High 380

Type 1.2 (Mongol legend, crude construction, mirror reverse, engraved number) - Low 396/High 399

Type 2.1.1 (Mongol legend, mirror reverse, serial number at 10 o'clock) - Low 32/High 496

Type 2.1.2 (Mongol legend, mirror reverse, serial number at 7 o'clock) - Low 911/High 4100

Type 2.2.1 (Mongol legend, flat reverse, silvered brass, serial number at 6 o'clock) - Low 1128/High 1958

Type 2.2.2 (Mongol legend, flat reverse, silvered brass, serial number at 8 o'clock) - Low 865/High1806

Type 2.2.3(Mongol legend, flat reverse, silver) - Low 4400/High 4586

Type 3 (Cyrillic Legend, unnumbered)

Comments, PLEASE!!!

As we get to see some documents, we may be able to get some dates overlaid onto this?

Nice, Jan, very nice. Thanks for posting these.

I looked (and looked) to try and find a copy myself, but no luck. Now I wish I'd looked even more.

A near-contemporary beard

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=8152&st=27

and while, not a beard, close enough?

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=8152&st=29

Just a couple of new ones (updated with a nice scan!):

1188876 Lance-Naik Joginder Singh, Artillery

1- Wound Medal - 1188876 L/NK JOGINDER SINGH ARTY

2- Paschimi Star - 1188876 L/NK JOGINDER SINGH ARTY

3- Raksha Medal - 1188876 GNR JOGINDER SINGH ARTY

4- Sangram Medal - 1188876 L/NK JOGINDER SINGH ARTY

5- Sainya Seva Medal, "Bengal-Assam" - 1188876 L/NK J. SINGH ARTY

6- 25th Independnce Anniversary - 1188876 GNR JOGINDER SINGH ARTY

7- Nine Year Service - 1188876 GNR JOGINDER SINGH ARTY

Lovely, thanks for posting. I always like seeing new things (new to me at least) and learning about them.

Nice one, thanks. Proves the value of research!

Nice late silver pinback. Issued? Unissued? Surplus stocks from the state bank? Hard to say until some records open up.

As an update:

Type 1 (screwback) - Low 83/High 3744

Type 2 (silver pinback) - Low 4029/High 7020

Type 3.1 (bronze pinback numbered) - Low 9050/High 9060

Type 3.2 (bronze pinback unnumbered - unawarded "escapee"?)

The current (ugly) bronze pinback is quite uncommon (close to "rare"?), although they are out there. They are clearly being awarded. When I was in UB, I saw television news coverage of interviews with recent recipients after a bestowal ceremony (all in Mongolian, so working from images only here); all recipients were clearly wearing the bronze varieties.

It is one of the contemporary, but unissued, Sukhbaatar badges. Many of these seem to be unfinished or flawed, and come unnumbered. Ugly, unissued, but real.

But compared to a real SB, it is very sad indeed.