Ed_Haynes
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I know that the late Dr. K long asserted that HE AND ONLY HE held the copyright on this. But, then, the dear old gent asserted many things . . . .
So far as I know, no one has sued the N&MP boys. And they have reprinted many things, including things more problematic than H&S. (Though you need to take care, for you may not live long enough for them to fulfill your order -- months and months!)
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The best I can do for a close-up. It is in low relief and the scanning of back detail on things with long screw posts always presents, as we all know so well, tremendous depth-of-field problems. May have to drag out the old SLR camear (film . . . ooohhhhh).
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The "B" reverse. Not sure I buy Glenn's "top" explanation.
This, # 1901, is from that putative "group" I addressed elsewhere -- http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=5226&st=7 -- but the individual piece remains of interest?
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Just noticed we'd never illustrated the latest and ugliest in this series, Type 4.2 (OK, we guess at the existence of an unnumbered Type 4.3).
In case the number isn't legible, it is 31874.
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OK, . . . .
Try this:
Type 1.1 (numbered, screwback, engraved number); Low = 81/High = ???
Type 1.2 (numbered, screwback, stamped number); Low = 3543/High = 4501
Type 1.3 (unnumbered, screwback)
Type 2.1 (numbered, pinback); Low = 541/High = ???
Type 2.2 (unnumbered, pinback)
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Noticed we didn't have a Type 2.2 of the Baildaani gav'yaany odon (happy, Rick??) shown here, so here is the ugly thing. We might guess at the existence of a Type 2.3, unnumbered??
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Pat,
You really do need to get a copy of a good book on Soviet awards. The McDaniel and Schmitt, though showing its age, is the "red bible". Get it. Please.
Have PMed a source.
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Nothing official, to be sure. A quick check in any book (or book section) on US awards would reveal this. No subsequent government would have honored them.
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They are mounted on the ribbons used for the ribbonbars.
Jan
In some cases, perhaps, in many others though "foreign" awards were just mounted from plain red ribbons. Not clear on all these photos which procedure was being used.
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This looks like a (new) type 3 or a "mule".
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And . . . since it was in the same place . . . the French medal for the 1956 British-French-Israeli invasion of Egypt -- M?daille d?Orient: ?Moyen-Orient? 1956.
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Here it is, I knew it was somewhere about:
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. . . You guys approach these bars like museum curators! I can respect that.
Well, we are museum curators -- or, more important, "history curators". If you want to collect things that are just "things" and be driven purely (impurely?) by monetary value, other things exist to study?
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At least with Mongolian awards, we are used to a certain mix-and-match approach when it comes to screwplates. Could this not also be the case with Soviet awards?
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Was it made without a crown or did it have "surgery" to "cleanse" it?
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Nice. Would love to see how they have their converted-to-Soviet-suspension Mongolian medals mounted. On what ribbon?
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Another outlink - http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3222
Somewhere in there is a Red Banner
T 4 - # 388681
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I checked it out. It is one book at 18 English pounds which is $36 and at least $15. for shipping, total $51. My CD would be 1/2 as much.
Yes, I'm not saying at all that your offering was a bad deal. It is just that if people preferred a paper reprint of H&S -- and some do -- the price wasn't anything near to EUR 200, as had been quoted. In fact, a quick search on abebooks shows a large number of even cheaper copies, including originals at WAY under EUR 1200! Try approx. EUR 500 for an original edition.
While I don't mind books on CD-ROM, some have an issue with it. But at least, unlike some cheaper reprints, the pages don't fall out of a CD.
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Great post, Chuck. We anxiously await photos!
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Lovely lovely site!
Thanks for posting. Will use it in classes.
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But . . . show us a picture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Whatever we call this thing, here's an effort at a renewed typology:
Type 1.1 (Screwback; flat reverse; 5 rivets); Low = 101/High = 840; 1945-??
Type 1.2 (Screwback; circular indentation at center on reverse; 2 rivets); Low = 1038/High = 5873; 19??-70
Type 2.1 (Pinback, 4 rivets, silver); Low = 6036/High = 8722; 1970-2004
Type 2.2 (pinback, bronze); Low = 7120/High = 9066; 2004?
Will post some missing varieties here tomorrow.
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Lieut-Col. H.F.L. Hilton-Green, DSO, MC
in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
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No, it would have been forbidden. And this was enforced. All enemy awards were so treated (and there was much complaint at losing all those attractive Japanese awards after 1941!). Clearly this is a pre-war or post-war mounting job.