Ed_Haynes

Real Iraqi awards were so much nicer!!

Or, in other words, who knows . . . ????

4. Killed in Action

3. Wounded in Action

2. Achievement Medal

To get us back on/toward the relevant topic, all I know of (with really lousy images). Are:

1. Valor Medal

You are not thwe only one... from the Uniform, 1970s porno star moustache and the lazy look I thought he was an Iraqi general.....

Maybe now, but not in the Good Old Days.

No only in Russian. What else should we expect? Sites on US or British medals tend to be only in English. While far from perfect, the various online translation engines give you the pidgin-Russian version. I like

http://www.online-translator.com/default.asp?lang=en

but there are dozens.

Can't be many Zanzibari orders among the sausages??

Hi Ed,

You might know this one...

I heard a rumor that the Iraqi Govt is making medals to give to US service members who participated(ing) in the war.

Have you heard anything like this?

Paul

I have heard talk of it, but I suspect the new "government" has more important things to worry about? Unless Halliburton has started striking medals as a sideline??

what the eagle he is wearing just above his ribbion bar? iv something similer but i thought they were polish para jump wings!!!

They are, he's Polish.

The anniversary seems to be shaking a lot of stuff out and onto the market.

The Best Creator

B # K 07. #717.

I was unaware that these were numbered. Many of these early "best" badges seem to be numbered?

Reverse detail:

1- May I suggest an alternative nomenclature?

The Order of the Vajra

2- All Yuri's sites seem to be down OH NOOOOOO!

3- Eye candy, 3rd class, 4th grade:

Another data point - type 1.3.1 - 323.

Agreement with Christophe and Paul, 100%.

Oh, duh, sorry, what an idiot I am.

Should never post before coffee. Though, as I have the information up, I guess I should leave it, even though it is

Not mine, but shown thanks to a friend:

3810 Havildar Jiwan Singh, 28th Punjabis

Serbian Cross of Karageorge 2nd Class (with Swords) by AO 534 of 1917 (Hypher 2:227). (Although this one seems to be missing its crown?)

There were more than a few Serbian awards to Indians during WWI, and I wouldn't characterise them as rare (many more than the Belgian awards, for example, though fewer than the Russian ones).

Excerpted from http://sagongs.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=242 ---

Serbian awards to Indian forces in WWI

Orden Beli Orao / Order of the White Eagle - 4th class with swords (the medal)

Lieutenant-Colonel Kanwar Jeoraj Singh, Bikaner Camel Corps - AO 534 of 1917

Regimentdar (Lt-Col) Chamray Urs, Mysore IS Lancers

Colonel Nand Singh, Sardar Bahadur, Patiala IS Lancers - AO 534 of 1917

Karajordjeva Zvezda / Order of Karageorge - 4th class with swords (the medal)

Subadar Sultan, 1st KGO Sappers

Subadar-Major Gurmukh Singh, 36th Sikhs

Major Ishar Singh, 2nd Patiala IS Infantry - AO 534 of 1917

Orden Beli Orao / Order of the White Eagle - 5th class with swords (the medal)

Subadar Daya Singh, 30th Mountain Battery - AO 534 of 1917

Subadar Yakhudin, 1st KGO S&M - AO 534 of 1917

Subadar Michael, Bahadur, 2nd QVO S&M - AO 534 of 1917

Subadar Tika Khan, 58th Rifles - AO 534 of 1917

Subadar-Major Bhim Singh Thala, IOM, 2/3rd GR - AO 534 of 1917

Jemadar Naine Lama, 2/7th GR - AO 534 of 1917

Major Pooran Singh, Alwar IS Infantry

Captain Krishna Rao Kanhoji Rao Dalvi, 4th Gwalior IS Infantry - AO 534 of 1917

Ressadar Sheikh Hamid, 1st Hyderabad IS Lancers

Jemadar Balagaly Puttayjuirs Krishne Urs, Mysore IS Lancers - AO 534 of 1917

Karadjoedjeva Zvezda / Cross of Karageorge - 1st class with swords (the medal)

2055 Lance Dafadar Khazan Singh, 4th Cavalry - AO 534 of 1917

3668 Dafadar Inder Singh, 7th Lancers - AO 534 of 1917

764 Naik Sawan Singh, 1st KGO S&M - AO 534 of 1917

2760 Havildar Krishnasami, 2nd QVO S&M - AO 534 of 1917

3167 Havildar Chandar Singh, 3rd S&M - AO 534 of 1917

2688 Havildar Ujala, 6th Light Infantry - AO 534 of 1917

927 Naik Nand Singh, 12th Pioneers - AO 534 of 1917

4584 Havildar Teja Singh, 1/23 Pioneers - AO 534 of 1917

1740 Havildar Mangal Singh, 34th Pioneers - AO 534 of 1917

4439 Sepoy Atma Singh, 36th Sikhs - AO 534 of 1917

29 Havildar Piaroo, 1/67th Punjabis - AO 534 of 1917

1443 Sepot (L/Nk) Kesar Singh, 82nd Punjabis - AO 534 of 1917

1282 Havildar Sobha Singh, 90th Punjabis - AO 534 of 1917

2461 Havildar Sawal Ram, 102nd Grenadiers - AO 534 of 1917

1813 Havildar Lal Bahadur Gurung, 2/3rd GR - AO 534 of 1917

798 1st Class Sub-Assistant Surgeon Rawail Singh, ISMD (attd. Sikhs) - AO 534 of 1917

1706 Havildar Onkar, Alwar IS Infantry

1293 Havildar Raghunath Rao, 4th Gwalior IS Infantry - AO 534 of 1917

443 Daffadar-Major Heroj Kesaikar, Mysore IS Lancers - AO 534 of 1917

389 Havildar Qaim Uddin, 2nd Patiala IS Infantry

Karadjoedjeva Zvezda / Cross of Karageorge - 2nd class with swords (the medal)

1390 Dafadar Gujar Singh, 16th Cavalry - AO 534 of 1917

1539 Naik Sundar Singh, 12th Pioneers - AO 534 of 1917

3810 Havildar Jiwan Singh, 28th Punjabis - AO 534 of 1917, group shown below

3937 Havildar Ralli Ram, 30th Punjabis - AO 534 of 1917

1911 Naik Shankar, 37th Dogras - AO 534 of 1917

354 Havildar Dewa Singh, 47th Sikhs - AO 534 of 1917

1623 Havildar Awal Khan, 51st Sikhs - AO 534 of 1917

3722 Naik Redi Gul, 58th Rifles - AO 534 of 1917

558 Havildar Mahel Singh, 62nd Punjabis - AO 534 of 1917

906 Havildar Ali Shafar, 106th Pioneers - AO 534 of 1917

2295 Naik Dal Singh Thapa, 1/1st GR - AO 534 of 1917

3030 Havildar Atibal Gurung, 1/2nd GR - AO 534 of 1917

1036 Lance/Naik Narsing Ale, 2/6th GR - AO 534 of 1917

95 Havildar Basant Singh, Maler Kotla IS Sappers - AO 534 of 1917

1092 Sowar Karsan Singh, Mysore IS Lancers

Medalja za hrabrosh / Medal for Bravery ("Obilich Medal") - gold (the medal)

3684 Dafadar Ghenda Singh, 7th Lancers

731 Lance/Dafadar Nijabat Ali Khan, 12th Cavalry

325 Sepoy Ghafoor Mahomed, Aden Troop

209 Driver Lance/Naik Bagh Singh, 21st Mountain Battery

779 Gunner Muhammad Khan, 21st Mountain Battery

1179 Lance/Naik Mehtab Singh, 1st KGO S&M

1813 Sapper Virrasami, 2nd QVO S&M

2626 Sapper Narainasami, 2nd QVO S&M

3116 Sapper Pochatti Lakshiman, 3rd S&M

127 Sapper Rangaya, Divisional Signal Company

3106 Bugler Bhup Singh, 6th Light Infantry

2375 Sepoy Harnam, 6th Light Infantry

3194 Sepoy Umed Khan, 1/9th Infantry

1397 Sepoy Mansa Singh, 12th Pioneers

2648 Temp. Naik Kala Singh, 14th Sikhs

4119 Sepoy Jagat Singh, 14th Sikhs

1153 Sepoy Hakim Singh, 2/19th Punjabis

1289 Sepoy Teja Singh, 2/19th Punjabis

998 Sepoy Bhola Singh, 20th Punjabis

4842 Sepoy Harna Singh, 1/21st Punjabis

4711 Sepoy Sher Singh, 26th Punjabis

4016 Sepoy Gulab Khan, 27th Punjabis

3943 Sepoy Bahadur Singh, 36th Sikhs

1742 Sepoy Nikka Singh, 47th Sikhs

2006 Sepoy Partab Singh, 51st Sikhs

2694 Sepoy Dheru Khan, 1/56th Rifles

3457 Sepoy (Naik) Safriullah, 58th Rifles

3601 Sepoy Saida Khan, 59th Rifles

943 Lance/Naik Nand Singh, 76th Punjabis

1979 Lance/Naik (then Sepoy) Misri Khan, 82nd Punjabis

2225 Lance/Naik Bhagail Singh, 89th Punjabis

2642 Sepoy Mangal Singh, 90th Punjabis

2435 Lance/Naik Ali Ahmed Khan, 90th Punjabis

3691 Sepoy Munsi, 97th Infantry

3578 Sepoy Ramlalkhan Singh, 97th Infantry

4572 Naik Sohbat Khan, 107th Pioneers

1620 Sepoy Kan Singh, 120th Infantry

2436 Rifleman (L/Nk) Goru Ram, 125th Rifles

4487 Rifleman Khamba Sing Gurung, 1/2nd GR

2288 Rifleman (now L/Nk) Dalsing Gurung, 2/3rd GR

3294 Rifleman Diwan Sing Gurung, 2/3rd GR

1979 Rifleman Lilbir Rana, 2/3rd GR

2702 Lance/Naik Chandabir Ale, 2/5th GR

2661 Lance/Naik Jaman Sing Gurung, 2/5th GR

1441 Lance/Naik Jangbir Thapa, 2/7th GR

3479 Rifleman Bahadur Pun, 1/8th GR

3669 Bearer Fatha, Army Bearer Corps

1229 Driver Zarbad Shah, Mule Corps

Squadron Jemadar Mahsow, 31st Mule Corps - AO 637 of 1920

964 Sepoy Nathu Singh, Alwar IS Infantry

1050 Sepoy Lal Singh, Bikaner Camel Corps

955 Sepoy (now Naik) Jassu Singh, Bikaner Camel Corps

543 Sepoy Sheo Nandan Singh, 4th Gwalior IS Infantry

268 Sepoy (now L/Nk) Sampuran Singh, 2nd Patiala IS Infantry

Medalja za hrabrosh / Medal for Bravery ("Obilich Medal") - silver (the medal)

816 Lance/Dafadar Nur Hussein Khan, 12th Cavalry

1127 Sowar Pal Singh, 16th Cavalry

1383 Dafadar (then acting L/Daf) Mahbub Hasan, 23rd Cavalry

1551 Driver Fazal Ahmed, 26th Mountain Battery

585 Driver Mangal Singh, 26th Mountain Battery

722 Driver Babu Singh, 30th Mountain Battery

4167 Lance/Naik Chinna Panikar, 2nd QVO S&M

4070 Sapper Abdul Aziz, 3rd S&M

1787 Sepoy Tikam Singh, 4th Rajputs

3871 Lance/Naik Dalip Singh, 4th Rajputs

2893 sepoy Sis Ram, 6th Light Infantry

2248 Lance/Naik Jewan Singh, 14th Sikhs

1142 Sepoy Mehar Singh, 20th Punjabis

1557 Sepoy Alam Din, 22nd Punjabis

1485 Sepoy Nanak Khan, 22nd Punjabis

4268 Naik Lahaura Singh, 1/23rd Pioneers

3755 Lance/Naik Jan Mahomed, 31st Punjabis

3871 Sepoy Dalip Singh, 36th Sikhs

2446 Sepoy Ludhar, 37th Dogras

194 Lance/Naik Shingar Singh, 53rd Sikhs

986 Lance/Naik Ali Muhammad, 1/56th Rifles

2353 Sepoy Bagga Singh, 1/56th Rifles

4153 Private Sayyid Abdul Hamid, 64th Pioneers

1683 Sepoy Hardit Singh, 1/67th Punjabis

2041 Lance/Naik Dost Muhammad, 1/67th Punjabis

2219 Havildar Nur Muhammad, 1/89th Punjabis

3069 Sepoy Shera Khan, 93rd Infantry

4518 Sepoy Harnam, 1/113th Infantry

5309 Sepoy Intiaz Khan, 119th Infantry

2488 Naik (then Sepoy) Kana Ram, 121st Pioneers

3710 Lance/Naik Gudar Khan, 1/124th Infantry

4079 Sepoy Sagoon Matkor, 128th Pioneers

1936 Rifleman Nar Sing Thapa, 1/1st GR

2215 Rifleman Hastaram Thapa, 1/1st GR

4791 Rifleman Padam Sing Thapa, 1/2nd GR

4216 Rifleman Rasker Gurung, 1/2nd GR

2404 Rifleman Balbhadra Thapa, 2/3rd GR

2286 Rifleman Tirthbahadur Gurung, 2/3rd GR

2876 Rifleman Khar Dhoj Gurung, 2/5th GR

2896 Rifleman Munesar Thapa, 2/5th GR

2610 Lance/Naik Narain Thapa, 2/5th GR

1522 Lance/Naik Digbahadur Rai, 2/7th GR

3859 Lance/Naik Kishan Burathoki, 1/8th GR

723 Driver Jalal Din, Mule Corps

1449 Sepoy Hukam Singh, Bikaner Camel Corps

188 Sepoy Mit Singh, 1st Patiala IS Infantry

Dies are 'hardened' after being cut. I'm not sure about cutting into a hardened completed die.

OK, could be, maybe German jewlery shops did it differently than the Royal Mint in London, the Indian Mint in Calcutta, and the "by appointment" jewelers like Gerrard and Spink in London. As I said, I only work from the basis of what I know.

Yes, very strange. Given the source, I feel good (better?) about it, but in the constellation of some of the other "groups" shown here of late, there may well be a fecal fall of some magnitude??

As others have said, since a significant number of these medals would have been numbered, why create yet another totally fraudulent illegitimate "group"? For what earthly reason???

In the (unlikely?) event these ribbon sets are legitimate (there are many causes for concern), why defraud others (or yourself) by faking "groups"??

Suspect a late add-on to an existing group. Homemade half-mounting?

Interesting that the last one has its ribbon geometry reversed.