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"Elephant" Wrestling Badge (pre-1992) - W 12c

An appropriately sixed 39 x 38 mm on the shield.

Military Song and Dance Academic Ensemble (S 27)

Wow, big! A whopping 60 mm!

And why in English?

19th Conference of the MPRP, variant of B 27

Baatarchuud Badges - for the little ones, ages 7-10. U 01, U 02, U 03, and U 04.

Nice, nice. You so wish these photos could talk . . . .

Inside . . .

A 1985 hard-backed alternate to the the Brigade of Socialist Labor badge (the little one, X 09).

Also shown above as http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6043&st=01 with a paper document.

And from the image, they look real, not the usual tailors' copies. A shame the Pakistanis never named theirs (as India did) after 1947.

Photos required!

And, if possible and if it is OK with him, plop a small portable sound recorder (I used to say "tape", but now the best are all-electronic) down in front of him. Preserve his words as well as his goodies! Not too long from now, it is all there'll be.

That may be true, but there will be a great deal on the non-masonic aspects of his life. His Khan Sahib and Khan Bahadur recommendations are just the start!

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2324

There is a series of Indian government publications called "Frontier and Overseas Expeditions from India" done at the beginning of the last century. They are regionally based, i.e. all the expeditions against one group of tribes, or one country (Burma). Some of them are available for download www.archive.org. I bought the set in an Indian reprint about 20 years ago.

First part is a description of the area and its people (for the next expedition, no doubt), followed by the details of the expeditions. Quite detailed in most cases (number of men from each unit), casualties (not by name).

I'm at work now, so I can't tell you which volume you need.

Yes, the F&OE volumes are good for tracing regimental activities, though they're totally unindexed.

I, too, am at work, and will check details when I get home. Think you'd want either volume 1 or volume 2 as my failing memory recalls.

Thanks, while I can say I understand more than one-quarter of all this, it surely gives some context to the later history of this facet of Sadri's life.

Possibly of interest, probably not:

Edward S. Haynes, ?Contested Honour: The ?Raj? versus the ?Princes,? presented to the 18th European Conference on Modern South Asian Studies, Lund, Sweden, 6-9 July 2004

Text: http://faculty.winthrop.edu/haynese/HaynesLund.pdf

Accompanying Power Point presentation: http://faculty.winthrop.edu/haynese/Lund%2...iles/frame.html

Are you going to delhi this summer? If so, could you please have a look for this guy for me please?

Yep, will see what I can find, but there won't be much. Especially since the 5th (later the 5/13th FFR, I think), went to Pakistan, where most of the pre-1947 records have fallen almost totally off the radar. Will need to check, but not sure the 5th was shot at in Samana, probably line of communications troops or some such. Still, a nice gong.

For some reason, Masonry has survived in India, long after it ceased to be any sort of "Empire". Along with bagpipes and cricket, I guess . . . ??

Oh . . . nice!!

Close enough, and I know how hard this is to scan these things, Sam.

His name is Pir Baksh, an incredibly common name, almost a stereotypic Musim name. Would guess he's a Pathan or maybe Punjabi. If I check the regimental composition of the 5th in 1895, I may be able to get him down to company. This will require access to army lists, in Delhi, this summer.

And inside . . . .

And the case of the Order of the Sadul Star of Bikaner, Grand Commander (class I) sash badge (or Grand Master??), shown above at http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2784&st=1

Interior

wow - great breast star!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(if you ask like this - It is cased and, if you wish, I can haul out the camera and snap the case while the goodie is on "home leave". - than i can't say no )

thanks much and a great work of art!

christian

Your wish is my command.

Case exterior:

Since I happen to have these medals here on "home leave", I thought I'd do a close-up of the Masonic medal of Khan Bahadur Nasarvanji Navraoji Sadri, Inspector-General of Police, Kolhapur State.

His full group has been posted, though apparently forgotten and undiscussed, in http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2324 -- maybe too exotic??

The lightly guilded silver medal is suspended from a faced (and fraying) blue ribbon from what I think of as the usual Masonic stick-pin. The obverse "LODGE ROYAL JUBILEE No 742 S.C." and named on the reverse "To Wor. Bro. Khan Saheb N. N. Sadry / Secretary 1932-33". It was made, and is marked by, the famous Bangalore jeweler Barton.

FYI.

The reverse. Usual Spink work, though neither the badge nor the case are marked (unusually so). I know Spink actively recruited the "Princes" for orders for orders and got repeatedly spanked by the government for doing that.

great breast star!

can we see a picture of the reverse (would be interesting if they "prefer" needle or srewback attachement - and how they made the reverse)

wonderfull example

christian

Having brought back the Order of the Vikram Star, Grand Commander star, let me re-scan the obverse and the reverse as well. It is cased and, if you wish, I can haul out the camera and snap the case while the goodie is on "home leave".

As it is heavily valuted it does not scan so well.