Ed_Haynes

A badge and diploma from Momngolian State University, 1976. The badge is R 47.

For those of you with a special fondness for backsides (back sides?):

And if you thought that one was kinky, hold on . . . .

Also "Plastic D" but it looks like it was done by someone with an over-active paint set and equally inspired imagination. Were it not so "salty" and bizarre, I'd wonder.

1- Honorary Medal of Combat (representing the first, enameled ribbon?); 30th Anniversary of Khalkin Gol; 40th Anniversary of Khalkin Gol

2- 60th Anniversary of MPR; ???; 30th Anniversary of Victory over Japan

3- 40 Years of MPR (???); 60 Years of Armed Forces of MPR (???); a very inventively rendered 50 Years of Khalkin Gol (?!?!)

4- 50 Years of MPR (???); 60 Years of MPR; 70 Years of MPR

5- Brotherhood in Arms (???)

I need all the help I can get with "reading" this one!

Another "Plastic D". Weird? Surely. Wonderful? I leave that for you to decide.

1- Honorary Medal of Combat (representing the first, enameled ribbon?); ???; ???

2- Medal 25 Years of MPR (representing the first, enameled ribbon?); 40 Years of the MPR (???); 50 Years of the MPR

3- 60 Years of the MPR; 30th Anniversary of Victory Over Japan; ???

4- 80 Years of MPR (???); Soviet Victory over Japan; Brotherhood in Arms (???)

Identifications are very tentative and I'd appreciate others' "reading" of this bar.

Is there an official Mongolian order of wearing for these ribbons? (Clearly, for medals, there wasn't much of one, as they seemed to just be scattered all over.) There's an archival research challenge if ever there was one!

I ask in part out of general curiosity and in part due to the two ribbon bars that follow.

The Defence Medal was not easy for naval types to earn, though they did do so on rare occasion. The absence is not surprising. The conditions for earning the DM are amazingly complex.

I am glad to see others correct the (1) wrong LSCG ribbon and (2) out-of-order display and flipped ribbons. Worth getting mounted, but make sure it is done right, please.

A lovely group, with much history behind it. Not a good idea to add presumably "entitled" but never awarded (= "fantasy") medals. That betrays what is important, true, and accurate here.

Is this a soviet Osoaviakhim badge?

Jan

Well, there was a Mongolian one, but Dr. B shows only the scraps of one specimen. So this may be an important photo.

Fascinating, thanks for sharing!

Found out that this booklet apparently belongs to a a D05.

Really? Were documents still issued in Mongolian script after 1960?? The post-1960 arms are used on D 05, but the post-1940 arms on D 03a and D 03b. Would have expected a Cyrillic document that late?? I would surely have expected Cyrillic was "gifted" by the Friendly Northern Neighbor in 1941, but Mongolian before that.

While we're on this, how different are D 03a and D 03b as varieties? Are these true varieties or is this just a case of a very thin gilt coating on a silver base evaporating or being absorbed and appearing now, after some 65 years, to be silver? Is D03b just well preserved, while D 03a has has the thin gilt float off into the atmosphere. This process is quite common in many pof the Indian awards that I focus on, and I wouldn't be surprised if Central Asian chemistry worked in a similar fashion to the South Asian.

An excellent site, thank you for posting the link!

Pretty, Paul, keep them coming.

But show us some MEDALS . . . . !!

Good on ya! Envy exudes.

(And, had I not been out of town, . . . .)

Something about these whispers "Yemen" to me. Let me check when I am back among my research notes.

Indian state of Patiala.

The Royal Phulkian Family Order - Knight Grand Commander, breast star.

I think these two are similar; or is there here a variation ?

Ch.

Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection

The two are identical. What a waster of display space. Have tried persuading them to remedy that.

Will give the whole run-down. actually, I have my list somewhere. The British campaign medals are randomly arranged and many have very wrong ribbons, so ....

Thanks, Wild Card. Sure, sometimes it just boils down to what your "gut" tells you (I am struggling with a case just now of the naming on a very uncommon GSM for Iraq), but it hjelps the community when we can put that "gut" into words, and points to specifics. Somtimes saying why we thing (THINK) the way we do helps us too in refining our perceptions.

Thanks again.

Thanks, Christophe. On the road for a couple of days just now, but shall surely revert immediately upon my return.

The sort of thing that makes it tempting to get out your Dremel and engrave "FAKE" (deeply) on the reverse. And computer-driven laser technology with just make it worse.

Thanks, Gerd,

For those of us who want to learn, knopwing WHY something is ruled "good" or "bad" is vitally important. So often, a piece is just dismissed as "bad, just because I say so" and it is left there. Setting aside standards of gentlemanly behavior, this helps no one (except, perhaps, the poster's ego). Sure, there is the potential problem of our posts helping the fakers do it better the next time, but so long as the ignorant denizens of eBay will pay almost any silly price for their tripe, why should they care about our diagnoses?

Thanks again,

Ed

The Honored Railway Worker

B # O 02

This one is numbered 177.

An amazingly high-quality badge, very three-dimensional. I am surprised at the quality.

Sixty Years of Transport

Three more NIB education badges. What precisely does one learn at the Ghengis Khan Academy?

And the slope continues slipppppppinnnnngggggggg . . .

One more . . .

Here is my collection. It is the first time to post them together.

1st, s/n 1859

2nd, s/n 298

3rd, s/n 60

Thanks for this. Could you show us close-up scans of the reverses, please. Welcome to the forum and to our little Mongolian ger.