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How much "collecting" and how much "investing" is underway just now?
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Even for an "outsider", very pretty. Any chance of an ID? (Or is that a stupid question?)
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Oh . . .
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Order of the Polar Star . . .
. . . my brain hurts!!!
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Thanks for taking the time to post. A fascinating tale.
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One reason why I seek whatever I can find ... one reason I hope to be in Ulanbaatar this summer ....
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OK, I am still trying to sort these Mongolian things out, and losing, badly. In my latest effort, I have tried to come up with a sort of "checklist", by type, by serial numbers, and by date. This is VERY preliminary and I am sure very wrong in places. But I have reached a critical mass of confusion and wanted to share this delightful state with the brotherhood here.
Help!!!!!!!!!!!
Get the checklist: http://faculty.winthrop.edu/haynese/Mongol...20checklist.pdf
(Cannot upload it here, sorry.)
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Congratulations, Eric. Well done!!
And thanks to you and The Boss for so kindly making it available for the edification of all!! I hope everyone appreciates your kindness enough to respect your wishes regarding appropriate use of this first-class work.
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Lovely, just lovely. Does it have the original Turkish paperwork as well?
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What else can I say, . . .
. . . !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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beautiful awards. I bet that these beauties are expenisive as heck!
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question... Did mongolia have guards units, where the members wore guards badges simular to that of the Soviets?Regards
Paul
While I'm not sure this answers your question, Paul, no such badges are shown in Battushig's fine book.
Ed
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When a good book (Battushig) on a previously "obscure" subject is published, prices go stratospheric.
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55829 R Petty Officer Topass Sohan Lal, Indian Navy
Not super uncommon (except in so far as all naval groups are not common), but a nice group.
1- Poorvi Star - 55820 TOP IIS. LAL, I.N.
2- Sangram Medal - 55820 TOP II S. LAL, I.N.
3- 25th Independence - 55820 TOP-II. S. LAL, I.N.
4- 20-Year - 55820 R PO TOP. S. LAL, IN
5- 9-Year - 55829 R PO TOP SOHAN LAL, IN
Dipped, unfortunately, but that "stylish" abomination is common.
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95579 Rifleman Ujir Mall, 2/9th Gurkha Rifles
1- The Indian Independence Medal, 1947 - 96579 RFN. UJIR MALL, 9 G.R.
2- 1939-45 Star - 95579 RFN. UJIR MALL, 9 G.R.
3- Pacific Star - 95779 RFN. UJIRMALL, 9 G. R.
4- The War Medal, 1939-45 - 95579 RFN. UJIRMALL, 9 G.R.
Captured in Singapore, February 1942. He is shown as missing in the POW rolls (but with regt. # 95379), but almost surely became a POW. The battalion is reported to have gone only about 10% INA. Battalion re-raised 1 June 1946, of which he was apparently a part.
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It is truly amazing how slices of phoney knowledge can, when repeated often enough and with enough certainty, become "fact". It is always equally amazing how some who ought to know better never "fact-check" their assertions. A lesson for us all?
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Just gives a "Das Angebot ist beendet".
Sic transit gloria eBay - NOT!
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I assumed -- silly me -- that he was takling about the Corps of Guides (of the Indian Army). Oops. Was I looking for the wrong pictures . . . ??
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The China Expeditionary Force (CEF) Order of Battle:
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A token group:
825 Sepoy Ran Singh, 34th Punjab Pioneers
1- India General Service 1854 - HAZARA 1888 - "825 Sepoy Ran Singh 34th Bl Infy"
2- The India Medal 1895 - RofC 1895, PF 1897-98, TIRAH 1897-98 - "825 Sepoy Ran Singh 34th Bl Infy"
3- China War 1900 - "825 Sepoy Ran Singh 34th Pab Pioneers"
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There were three clasps:
1- Taku Forts (mainly Naval)
2- Defence of Legations (immensely rare, as you may surmise)
3- Relief of Pekin
It was awarded in silver to combat troops and in bronze to non-combatants, mainly "followers" in the Indian Army.
A "type collection":
1- 147 Sepoy Sheo Narain Alwar I. S. Infy.
2- RELIEF OF PEKIN - 119 Sapper Niamakullah Be S & M (also shown above)
3- bronze - 388 Syce Kumar, 3d Q. O. Bo Lt Cavy
4- bronze - RELIEF OF PEKIN - Grass Cutter Tirkha 1st Bl Lcrs
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Inspired by the Imperial German thread on the same topic, here is the British (imperial) medal.
This one awarded to "119 Sapper Niamatullah. Bo S & M." [bombay Sappers and Miners].
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China 1900-1 is a fascinating campaign from all sides. Thanks much for this thread.
Maybe we should make trouble over on the other sub-fora and set up our own China threads?
(I am doing so on the "British" forum!)
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Welcome To Our Newest Sub-Forum
in People's Republic Mongolia
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I am very glad to see this. We have, collectively, started to weave together some very good post-Battushig information on Mongol awards. Now we can do so all in one place, in a corner where we can keep out thoughts straight(er) -- except regarding the Order of the Polar Star where atraight thoughts are elusive. Thanks to the Big Boss for doing this and thanks to us for making it necessary!