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I can't imagine the family would be very proud of it or the services that it represented.

While not nearly as common as the dealers (whether in India or the UK or elsewhere) would have us believe, I do think thst in isolated cases (to which there may or may not be an underlying pattern) unnamed WWI medals were issued. Yet a "group" with an unnamed BWM or an unnamed Victory as a part of a pair (not so much a trio, as Mark observes) ought to incite caution (flight?) unless the provenance is 100% solid (i.e., from the family).

On eBay?!?!?

Table medals always attract limited interest (for better or worse).

Add those two numbers together and add 20%?

Well . . . .

-- No indication on his left side? Sometimes you can see/sense holes?

-- More likely an OPW than a Nevsky (though I know you have it) -- even an '85, just for a uniform

-- Guards Badge? A lot cheaper than others. For the visual impact you can even use cheap post-war.

-- M1940, rules, what rules?!? (1940? 1942, maybe?)

Interesting, Mike. Thanks for this.

From what I have seen in the records (in Delhi and London), the decision was made for this medal and monies were appropriated, always a key moment for any government. Maybe even a more important moment for a joint stiock company than for a proper "government"? And it was clearly intended as something to be worn (apparently reflecting earlier unofficial practices -- has anyone ever seen a Capture of Pondicherry Medal mounted for wear, I'd wager they exist/ed).

What happened after that is, at best, vague.

The image, but the way, came from another collector, whose name also starts with "M", with permission to use (without attribution).

Any documents, or just the items?

I, too, am very

What "decoration spoor" exists? One nice thing about Soviet uniforms is that they'll almost always bear traces of what was worn there.

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This document came along with (I won't yet say "in a group") with a nice cased 1914-15 War Medal.

I think I have scanned it correctly (right-to-left) and have the right side up? Printed Japanese is one things, but this flowing script, however beautiful, .

Thanks in advance (to Paul or to Paul's long-suffering wife?).

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So true and all credit to Paul. (And he also has a "day job".)

He has accomplished a very difficult thing: To publish a book when you know for certain that your presentation will be far, far less than 100%. This is a very difficult thing for any author to do. He has now introduced the field and brought (deluging) out of collection drawers and boxes the badges he does not present. Some day, a second (or third or . . . ?) edition . . . ?

The best we can do is share (as has been done in thsi thread) high-quality images of "NIS" badges.

It is a shame that Paul almost never comes here.

I see no indications that are good.

And, by the way, I am moving this to the British section where responses might be better.

So far as I know, this clasp came only in silver. What is the naming? If legitimate, this would be VERY interesting!

Thanks for these!

Khartoum Star?! As in Gordon's medal?

That is what it looks like to me. Maybe I'm wrong. Been known to happen.

The reason for the differences in names in the London Gazette is largely due to those being responsible for that publication at home having little or no knowledge of the outside world. The biggest problems arise when they try to make lists of people according to alphabetical surname, then make all sorts of incorrect assumptions over Muslim and Chinese names. They then convert them back again to full form with further errors. Now, if someone fills in a form with boxes in it for "given name", "surname" and "father's name" then the room for errors by someone who does not know about particular naming formats is almost endless.

So true. Most most outside Europe, it is a challenge to fit into the European conception of naming structure. The gazette-makers and index makers have just contributed to the chaos. Try every possible order and every possible spelling and . . . maybe . . . .

All pat of the puzzle.

Still, the Western world does not seem to have advanced all that much. After the 9th of September the US immigration authorities started carting away numbers of Malaysians because they used "bin" between their own given and fathers' last names.

Frankly, just being turned down for a visa might not be so bad. The harassment inflicted by immigration and "homeland "security" people to anyone who looks to them "odd" is shameful. And then there is the patriotic mob violence such as has been focused, for example, on Sikhs who, like Osama bin Laden, happen to have beards and turbans.

When it comes to non-British names, the correspondence between the name as rendered on the medal and the name in the London Gazette (saying nothing about the real name) seems to be more variable than usual (and that's saying a lot) when it comes to the B.E.M. Almost all of mine, of course, are to Indians -- military, civil, and merchant navy -- and it can be a challenge matching the medal to the gazette entries (whether LG or GoI), though, strangely, the recommendations are usually pretty good for name accuracy.

I picked up in Delhi a BEM to "Ibrehim Kawas Mohammad" and this researched out to "Mohammad Ibrehim Kawas - Surveyor, Department of Surveys Palestine" awarded B.E.M. LG 12 June 1941. The recommendation is elusive, though probably a retirement gift.

Amazing how Palestinian B.E.M.s seem to travel about the globe.

A nice one you snagged there!

Yes, it would seem that he and his second wife are still alive.

And a third.

Council of Association of Veterans of Local Wars and Confrontations

REPUBLICS MOLDOVA

The sign the Veteran of War in Afghanistan is handed over to veterans of war, and also families of victims in Afghanistan. To veterans actively participating in a public life of Moldova, protection of the rights and social rehabilitation of veterans of war in Afghanistan.

Another one, same source.

?For Fighting Commonwealth?

The commemorative medal is founded by Association of Veterans of Local wars and Republic Moldova Confrontations. The commemorative medal awards veterans of war, participants of local wars and confrontations in Algeria, Angola, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Hungary, Vietnam, Egypt (ОАР), the Yemen Arabian Republic, Cambodia, China, Laos, Mozambique, Northern Korea, Syria, Ethiopia, military figures, heads of the veteran organisations brought the considerable contribution to development of veteran movement.

Previously unreported, from http://www.afganwar.md/russian/brotherhood.htm

A nasty machine translation:

?15 years of a withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan?

The commemorative medal is founded by Association of Veterans of Local wars and Republic Moldova Confrontations. The commemorative medal awards veterans of war in Afghanistan, participants of local wars and confrontations in Algeria, Angola, Bangladesh, Hungary, Vietnam, Egypt (ОАР), the Yemen Arabian Republic, Cambodia, China, Laos, Mozambique, Moldova (the Dnestr conflict), Northern Korea, Syria, Ethiopia, State and public figures, heads of executive power and the veteran organisations brought the considerable contribution to development of veteran movement and actively participating in work on social and medical rehabilitation of veterans of local wars and confrontations, and also members of their families.

Originally thought to be from Moldavia -- see http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=31037&st=33 -- but now I'm not quite so sure.

I had started a thread on the varions veterans' bodies over at http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=30742 , but it seems to have attracted scant attention. I'll add the Red Star clone (and a few others) over there, as the Moldavian connection seems questionable.