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JC-108697 Subadar Kishorilal, Punjab Regiment

1- The General Service Medal, 1947 - MIZO HILLS - 2444454 HAV KISHOREILAL, PUNJAB R

2- Samar Seva Star, 1965 - unnamed

3- Raksha Medal, 1965 - 2444454 NK KISHORI LAL PUNJAB R

4- Sangram Medal, 1971 - unnamed

5- Sainya Seva Medal - Jammu Kashmir, NEFA - 2444454 SEP. KISHORILAL, PUNJAB R.

6- High Altitude Service Medal - JC-108697 SUB KISHORILAL, PUNJAB R

7-25th Independence Anniversary Medal, 1972 - 2444454 HAV KISHORI LAL PUNJAB R

8- Twenty Years Long Service Medal - 2444454 N SUB KISHORI LAL, PUNJAB R.

9- Nine Years Long Service Medal - 2451978 L-NK RUP SINGH, PUNJAB R. - not his, but it came with the group! (Did the Subadar-Sahib lift someone's medal to fill out his group?)

1527748 Havildar Sadaram Singh, Bombay Engineers Group

1- Samanya Seva Medal, 1965 - Nagaland - 1522748 HAV S SINGH, BOMBAY E G

2- Raksha Medal, 1965 - 1527748 SPR. S. SINGH, BOMBAY ENGR GP.

3- Sangram Medal, 1971 - 1527748 L/NK SADARAM SINGH

4- Sainya Seva Medal - Himalaya - 1527748 SPR. S. SINGH. BOMBAY ENGR. GP.

5- 25th Independence Anniversary Medal, 1972 - unnamed

6- Nine Years Long Service Medal - 1527748 LNK. S. R. SINGH, BOMBAY ENGR.

7- Long Service and Good Conduct Medal - 1527748 HAV SADARAM SINGH, BOMBAY E G - mounted out of order

4448021 Naik Gurnam Singh, Sikh Light Infantry

1- The General Service Medal, 1947 - NAGA HILLS - 4448021 SEP-BS. GURNAM SINGH, SIKH L.I.

2- Sangram Medal, 1971 - 4448021 SEP / B/S GURNAM SINGH SIKH LI

3- Sainya Seva Medal - Himalaya - 4448021 SEP-B-S. G. SINGH, SIKH LI

4- High Altitude Service Medal - 4448021 Na. Gurnam Singh. Si. La. I. (in Hindi)

5- 25th Independence Anniversary Medal, 1972 - 4448021 SEP-B-SMITH GURNAM SINGH SIKH L I

6- Nine Years Long Service Medal - 4448021 SEP. GURNAM SINGH, SIKH L. I.

Interesting:

A- Rank (Sepoy-Blacksmith);

B- Both "Himalaya" and High Altitude Medal; and

C- Hindi naming on High Altitude Medal.

4436391 Havildar Bachittar Singh, Sikh Light Infantry

1- The General Service Medal, 1947 - NEFA 1962 - 4436391 SEP. BACHITTAR SINGH, SIKH L. I.

2- Samar Seva Star, 1965 - 4436391 SEP. BACHITTAR SINGH, SIKH L. I.

Raksha Medal, 1965 - missing, obviously -

3- Sangram Medal, 1971 - 4436391 HAV. BACHITTAR SINGH SIKH L I

4- Sainya Seva Medal - Jammu Kashmir - 4436391 SEP. BACHITTAR SINGH, S. L. I.

5- Videsh Seva Medal - United Arab Republic - 4436391 SEP. BACHITTAR SINGH, SIKH L. I.

6- Nine Years Long Service Medal - 4436391 SEP. BACHITTAR SINGH, S. L. I.

7- United Nations: UNEF Medal - unnamed

A true shame it is missing one medal.

1097408 Sweeper Asa Ram, Armoured Corps

1- The General Service Medal, 1947 - NAGA HILLS - 1097408 SWPR. ASA RAM, A. C.

2- Sainya Seva Medal - Bangal-Assam - 1097408 SWPR ASA RAM, A. C.

3- Videsh Seva Medal - Congo - 1097408 SWPR. ASA RAM, A. C.

4- United Nations: Operation des Nations Units au Congo (ONUC) Medal - unnamed

Videsh Seva kind of "chewed", but still nice.

C-9436 Subadar-Major Meneha Singh, Army Service Corps (Motorised Transport)

There is MUCH variability in the spelling of his name!

WWII service, then out?

enrolled 9 January 1959 (re-enrolled?)

Naib Subadar 9 January 1959 (same day as enrollment)

Subadar 1 March 1964

Acting Subadar-Major 1 January 1968

1- Samar Seva Star, 1965 - JC-6436 SUB MECHANGA SINGH ASC(MT)

2- Raksha Medal, 1965 - JC9436_MEHNA SINGH ASC(MT)

3- Sangram Medal, 1971 - unnamed

4- 25th Independence Anniversary Medal, 1972 - ZJC9436 SUB. MAJ. MEHENGA SINGH ASC(MT)

5- The Indian Independence Medal, 1947 - MTN-940217 HAV MAMNGA SINGH, ASC(MT)

6- Twenty Years Long Service Medal - JC-9436 SUB-MAJ MENEHA SINGH, ASC(MT)

7- Nine Years Long Service Medal - ribbon only

8- 1939-45 Star - MTN/940217 C.Q.M. HAV. MEHNGA SINGH, RIASC (MT)

9- Burma Star - MTN-940217 C.Q.M. HAV. MEHNGA SINGH, RIASC (MT)

10- The War Medal, 1939-45 - MTN 940217 C.Q.M. HAV.MEHNGA SINGH RIASC(MT)

11- The India Service Medal, 1939-45 - unnamed

A few more . . .

Deputy Inspector-General of Police Mohmed Quadir Ali, I.P.S., Mysore

1- President's Police and Fire Services Medal for Distinguished Service "M. Quadir Ali, I.P.S., D.I.G. Mysore"

Not. No. 3-Pres./66 of 26 January 1966 (Gazette of India, 5 February 1966, p. 75):

"Shri Mohmed Quadir Ali, I.P.S.

"Deputy Inspector General of Police

"Central Range

"Bangalore, Mysore"

2- Police Medal for Meritorious Service, 1st variety "M. Quadir Ali, I.P.S., D.I.G. Police, Mysore"

Notficaton No. 5-Pres./59 of 26 January 1959 (Gazette of India, 31 January 1959, p. 52):

"Shri Mohamed Quadir Ali, .I.P.S., Deputy Inspector General of Polce, Southern Range, Mysore."

3- Police Independence Medal, 1950

It is online at http://www.andreas-thies.de/ is you can tolerate wading through the website and the PDF files.

As it includes chunks of the George Seymour and Eric Ludvigsen collections, what is there is predictably pretty, and pricey. Some items (documented 1813 EK 1?) seem too good to be true and forum wisdom would probably be welcomed.

Nothing for me, but lovely eye-candy for sure.

If amalgamated, I shall edit my posts, please.

The "Empire" is quite dead. India is independent.

It is, I think, almost as bad as the Third Reich stuff, and in some cases more dangerous, as we are closer in time to the availability of "raw materials" for medals, documents, and groups, and there is MUCH money in teh Old Country to acquire top-end items.

I think the reliability of the dealer is paramount, guarantees, and the ability to get "Paul Papers" are the best safety net we can arrange.

Boo-boo of the period, probably. Serious muck-up, for sure. Imbecile desecration, obviously.

Some German tinkerer who had no idea of the award, or the language, or the award being "helpful" to some veteran who wanted to wear it on his medal bar (where it didn't belong). But, then, most similar Ottoman awards we see (in the "trade" and on this forum) are European jewelers' fantasies. A post-war ("after the fact") effort to take an Ottoman award (from a State that no longer existed, rather like Prussia) and make it "fit", using whatever size sledge hammer was required.

Oh . . . that is especially nice. Thank you!

Laugh? More like cry . . .

. . . that some illiterate made it up wrong, spoiling what might have been an interesting (if novelty) item.

There is anorther thread under "world" (as these are no longer "British") over at

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2450

Do the magic-wielding moderators want to conjoin the two?

Nice. For some reason, there don't seem to be many Czech medals about.

Only a few at http://www.omsa.org/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=644

Victoria Cross winner Umrao Singh dead

NEW DELHI, NOV 21 (PTI)

Subedar Major and honorary Captain Umrao Singh, last of the surviving Victoria Cross winners in the Indian Army, died at the Army Research and Referral hospital here today after a prolonged illness.

Singh, 85, of Jhajjar in Rohtak, Haryana, won the Victoria Cross, the highest award for bravery under imperial India for beating off four Japanese attacks on his advanced battery position at Kaladhan valley in Burma on the night of December 15-16, 1944.

He struck down three Japanese soldiers before being knocked out.

Six hours later, on counter attack, Allied forces found Singh at the site of his gun, so severely wounded that he was hardly recognisable. Around him lay 10 dead Japanese soldiers.

He was the last survivor among 40 Victoria Cross winners in the Indian Army known for their feats in the first and second World Wars.

Singh's funeral will take place in Palra tomorrow with full Army honours, an Army spokesman said.

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=336439

IGS 08s with Af/NWF named to "Rlys" are not that uncommon. There is avery interesting range of civilian awards for this clasp.

The Plassey and Pondicherry medals were issued only as table medals and I have no evidence that they were ever mounted for wearing. I can dig up images for them.

I thought I had am image of the Ceylon Medal, but could not find it when I did the initial posting. Let me look again.

Ah! A needlessly complex and awkward designation, that!

I have an IGS 1908 "Afghanistan-NWF 1919" to a "87 W.E. E. McKinley Rlys" and have never been able to figure out if he was a CIVILIAN Railways employee, why the number. NOT this lot, then, from absence of the rest of the alphabet soup.

Yes, Rick, would assume he was a civilian railwayman, employed in moving troops up the frontier, most likely down in Sind. Nice medal.

Oh . . .

. . . you mean not everyone knows the Great Indian Peninsula Railway Regiment? Part of the Armed Forces of India (essentially territorial forces, mainly Europeans settled in India and a few Anglo-Indians). Weekend warriors. These guys were railway employees in "civvie street".

The regiment was raised in 1875 as the Great Indian Peninsula Railway Volunteer Corps. In 1890 they were absorbed in 1902 as the 2nd Battalion of the Midland Railway Voluneer Corps and renamed in 1917 as the 1/13th and 2/13th battalions of the Great Indian Peninsula Railway Battations. The title given above dates from 1920. During Gandhi's civil disobedience campaign (Jan 1930-Nov 1931) they served as railway security guards and as guards at armories. In WWII, during the "Quit India" movement (1942), they were again embidied for this same sort of duty.

While a territorial army continued after 1947, these AFI units were all disbanded.

As I was looking through back issues of The Medal Collector (now the JOMSA), I came across the attached short article (35, 4; April 1984; p. 19).

Does anyone know if this sad tale ever had a happy ending or the stolen medals still, as they said in the "X Files", "out there"?

A lovely group - thanks for posting!

Efficiency Medal, "INDIA", type collection

Partially duplicating things shown above, nevertheless . . . .

1- George V - CPL. C. H. JEREMIAH, DELHI CONTGT. A. F. I. - despite the name, probbaly not a European, I'd bet on Anglo-Indian so, therefore, legitimate for my collection

2- George V with additional bar for extra service - SEP. KALA, 11-13 F. F. RIF., I. T. F. - Unusual to an India and even more unusual with the second-award clasp, indicating twenty-four years of service. Wish there was some useful research direction. (Or is there?)

3- George VI - HAV-MAJ. BARKAT SINGH 11 SIKHS R. (I.T.F.)

Maharana Gambhir Singhji II of Rajpilpla

Visit of the Prince of Wales to India, 1875-76, silver - No. 11 MAHARANA GUMBHIR SINHJI RAJA OF RAJPIPLA

Maharana Gambhir Singhji II (b. 1847, r. 1860-10 January 1897, son of predecessor)

A total of 165 silver medals were minted.

221 Lance-Naick Gurbhaji, 41st Dogra Regiment

George V Corononation Medal, 1911 - DELHI - 221 41

Attributed to 221 Lance-Naick Gurbhaji, 41st Dogra Regiment (roll, p. 456). 134 of this clasp awarded.