Ed_Haynes

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Hey Rick and lads. Thats the MEDAHUIA Order (Spanish Colonial order from the Marocco "Protectorate"

, or "Spanish Marocco")

I add the concession doc in arabian and the spanish doc.

Miguel

The Arabic document (though small) seems to be upside down.

Thanks, Dave. Some things I think I can read, and sometimes I am right, but I don't trust my massively sub-literate Russian skills.

Help?!

Let me know if I need to enlarge or otherwise tweak the very grey scans.

And the relevant parts of the mass catch-up recommendation.

Reverse.

Record card obverse.

Need a lot of help.

For an unnumbered gallantry medal. You know what they look like.

Document.

There was a VERY good series of articles in JOMSA some time back. Can seek references.

Non-Nazi efforts would be nice. Have some Soiviet candidates?

Probably a highly intersting tale running there, back behind the number, and RESEARCH is indicated. If you should live long enough, given recent "research" ressults and turnaround!

A nice order, the lowest of the CCCP "Tsarist Heroes" awards to mean much. (I certainly don't count the "Glory".)

TRAGIC!!!!!!!!!!!!

This one is more for Ed, who may not be aware of the benefits of radio 4:

Here's an interview with the last living Indian army VC winner-good series. I listen whilst perusing gmic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/standateast.shtml

Nice. I was distantly involved in helping friends at the USI-I and UK High Commission in New Delhi get this pieced together.

I have been interviewed by them for a couple of their other shows.

More properly Qajar (than "Ghajar" - where'd THAT come from?!). Sort of distant cousin of the "Lion and Sun".

On the arts and sciences order, see: http://web.archive.org/web/20071102192158/...Orders/ilmi.htm

On the L&S, see: http://web.archive.org/web/20071102192203/...ers/lionsun.htm

Buyers' site is, alas, offline. He has/had good information.

Interesting. Any details on the Gazette of Pakistan notification?

Nice. Combat in two wars and 20+ years of service. Wish service records were available . . . .

Wow!

Your wife should educate my wife.

But, then, it is probably a very VERY bad idea that wives of "folks like us" should never meet. I have seen it happen. Not pretty. They compare notes. (Unless they, themselves, also collect!)

It is amazing how easy it is to please the research-addicted. Others don't/won't get it (ever)! They just want their STUFF.

True, I think the 1939-43 Star (=> 1939-45 Star) was eventually extended to cover Dunkirk, though Churchill aggressively opposed it (feeling that medals shouldn't be given out for defeats).

Interesting. Rick's suggesting is tempting. What is the size?? Oh, 5.5 cm, reakllky really big

Just go to the SAGongs website. So far, we have had, I think, five reunifications!

Nice one. Somehow, I vaguely recall seeing his medal group come across the market a few years back.

What is wrong with the mounting order untill the issue of the 1939/45 war medal the MiD placement is quite correct.

John

Actually, I don't see anything wrong with the order of the ribbon bar, just the curious absence of the War Medal (on which I accept Ralph's theory).

The whole order of wearing issue was, I thinbk, just wandering (but fun).

Prior to 1983 the Order of precedence was that the RVM was worn AFTER Campaign/Coronation Medals. It was then changed that it took precedence before the BEM (and consequently Campaign/LS/Coronation medals).

Groups worn before 1983 are thus correct showing the RVM at the end of the ribbon bar.

Ralph

Absolutely!

It is always sad (or worse) to see groups or ribbon bars forced into an order of wearing (or, for that matter, style of wearing) that was not in use during the period. While it is scarcely from from problems, Tuson's Medals will be Worn should live close at hand.

I think that our colleagues are talking about the former Socialist Federative Republic of Makedonia, once part of Tito's Jugoslavia.

Best wishes,

Enzo

Yes, Enzo, that was my thought too. To what degree were the Yugoslav provinces allowed to create their own, parallel, awards? Most States take a dim view of this sort of thing.

What "Macedonian nation" (= "Macedonian State"?) are we talking about?