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      Podolsk Archive to Close/Relocate!?

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted

      Well, possibly interesting? Who knows?

      What I get from one translation program is

      At the end of March in the Archives of Podolski was with the inspection Defense Minister someone Serdyukov. Nedoumeval He is such a big EARTH still not sold. And why is still NOT TO NI NUZHNY Archive exists. It was decided in one of the NATIONAL PROJECT TSAMO CLOSE, and merchants to hand the territory, ostensibly to build housing for the military. Knowing we are there for military homes will be built. Soon, the territory will FORMER ARHIVA entertainment establishments to operate! Unknown, which will be transported Archive. And that at the time of the event lost or perish. How many women arhivohraniteley overnight lose their jobs? And as a civil servant, and just rights, raises hand for holy?

      and from another

      In the end of March in Podolsk Archive there was with inspection a Minister of Defence somebody Сердюков. It very much was perplexed, how such greater territory of the GROUND still till now is not sold. And why till now to WHOM NOT the NECESSARY Archive exists. The decision within the limits of one of NATIONAL PROJECTS ЦАМО is accepted TO CLOSE, and територию to hand over to businessmen, ostensibly for construction of habitation for militarians. We what there for militarians will be constructed the at home know. Soon in territory of FORMER ARCHIVE there will be pleasure institutions will function! It is not known, where the Archive will be transported. Also that during this action it will be lost or will be lost. How many women-??????????? suddenly will lose work? And how at the official, and easier person, the hand on sacred rises?

      Still not sure I understand the "English" here any better than the Russian.

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      Iron Division Medal Group

      in Germany: Weimar Republic & Deutsche Freikorps

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      The multi-generational inheritable nature of our addiction is important. Provenence provenence provenence.

      Always nice to know "ex-XXX collection" (I have some with 3 or 4 named genealogical links back to The Greats). To know that XXX once fondled our guests . . . :jumping: .

      But, then, some see these as mere investments, to be flogged whenever the "market" goes up . . . .

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      Fake or realy crude medal?

      in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals

      Posted · Edited by Ed_Haynes

      These medals are fairly common in India (less so elsewhere). The records are unclear (and the Government of India was immensely confused) as to who received them. (The government, by the way, found all these Prince of Wales visits to be a great frustration, in part due to the medals -- all unwearable, but often worn -- that were strewn about.)

      While I have never seen any reference as to the proper ribbon, I believe this is the correct ribbon, an incredibly rare thing to encounter with this medal. Nice.

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      Lt-Colonel Mikhail Avetikovich Karapetyan

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted · Edited by Ed_Haynes

      By George, I think I've got it . . . maybe . . . .

      Think: Korovin TK (introduced 1926).

      Quoting (http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg189-e.htm ): "Most TK pistols were either issued as self-defence weapons for high ranking officers of Red Army or above-average officials of Communists party and Soviet government, or were used as presentational pieces for various achievements."

      Look at the one on the bottom (upside down sorry, image editing is dead).

      Opinions?

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      Lt-Colonel Mikhail Avetikovich Karapetyan

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted

      Thanks, Rick and William. I appreciate your help on this puzzle.

      Unfortunately, I know little about firearms or such, and so need all the guidance I can get.

      Likewise, I do not have the Russian original of what has been tranalsted as a ". . . pistol for 12th anniversary of chekist service . . .". Was it "pistol" or more generic "weapon"?

      I have been looking closely at the image of Budyonny?s pistol ever since I got the Durov book, but the whole idea and structure here would have been quite different.

      I have not held one of these Mauser pistols since high school (they had one that some WWI era graduate had presented [also had a TON of medal bars, where are they now?]). I tremble (literally) at the thought of having to go to a gun show somewhere in the Carolinas to compare the plate to the pistol. It may come down to this, though.

      Honestly, this smooth little silver plate doesn't say "saber" to me, but I may be deaf. It comes closer to saying "bayonet", but I am not sure that works either. The very flay plate (64 mm x 31/37 mm is quote flat, with a single (screw?) hole and the traces of four very short pieces of wire in each of the corners of the slightly recessed reverse.

      As I said, right now, my computer is very much on "life support" (with a good bit of stuff lost :( -- has everyone backed up recently?) and scanning offline. When things are healed (by, alas, a new computer), I'll certainly add details and scans as requested.

      While I love such puzzles, this one :banger:.

      Again, thanks for the interest.

      And here's another pistol picture to ponder.

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      Lt-Colonel Mikhail Avetikovich Karapetyan

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted

      That could be--that was a very popular gift weapon.

      But I think the large hole is where the wrist strap went through a saber hilt rather than a screw into the working mechanism of an automatic. Exact size/flat or curve will be important-- and how it attaches on back. It looks like there are bedn over wires which also wouldn't work bored into a hand gun receiver.

      All is now back in hand, but ongoing computer issues (= nightmares) preclude scanning. (All is sort of on life support just now, new computer on the way, ouch.)

      Size of the little metal plate? Horizontally around 64 mm, vertical dimension of 31 mm (skinny part) to 37 mm (fat part).

      Scan to come when possible.

      I still wonder the relationship of this scrap to the "Awarded pistol for 12th anniversary of chekist service on Chekist day 20 December 1932" mentioned above? It is certainly the same date.

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      Tongeren 18 August 1914

      in Northern European & Baltic States

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      And all of us need to strive to keep our personal family histories far away from our understanding of history. They are a part of history and they may help to make history real for us, but they can so easily become just another part of self-serving distorted memory and nationalistic myth-preserving.

      In all wars, "atrocities" take place, on all sides., and all sides commit them, really, in shameful abundance (which is why all "patriotism" gets so quickly made dirty and tawdry). It is pall part of the "game" of war. The ones any combatant reports against "the enemy" during the war are usually as false as those their wartime opponents intone about them. The real atrocity stories usually come only after the conlict (reference: WWII) when sources can be checked, though there are some modern exceptions (My Lai, Abu Ghraib, etc.).

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