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    1. Hi OLDUF (!) Hallo to Friesland with beautiful beaches & Islands! You have certainly shown us some SUPER "Fireworks" of rare & special TeNo fotos! Many THANKS! What a wonderful TeNo collection! I have enjoyed studying them & I have taken the liberty of pointing out some of the very important historical aspects which are shown in your wonderful fotos. ALL of your fotos are Special, but 3 of the fotos really stand out as images to learn from. Your TN Fahnentraeger with TN Gorget & TN Flag is the very BEST foto of this type which I have personally ever seen! CONGRATS! I have added in Pascal's TN Gorget, so that we see what he looked like when the foto was taken. This foto is a real treat for the eyes! ….Txs, …Dave / dblmed
    2. Hallo 'Strassburger' / Pascal ! Congratulations & Thanks for posting your TeNo Gorget ! This gorget is a seldom seen gorget & it is quite a pleasure to see it & to be able to examine it. The construction follows what is known from the TR historical record for the TN Gorget: Domed 'heart shaped' construction with rebated edge;15 cogs for the central roundel;9 cogs for the 2 corner post roundels;8 rays for the central star;White leather circle for the central element backing;Central TeNo 'red enamel pin' for the center element;Link chain type neck support; [*] Metal type used - the original TeNo regulations specified Nickle-Silver as the metal for construction. From your foto, it does look like Nickle-Silver to my eye, but only you can determine if it is constructed of Nickle-Silver, or if it is made of Aluminum? [*] The Regs. also specified the use of a Nickle-Silver chain for this gorget ... Reverse: Is quite fascinating to see. Since the gorget is a definite Domed type - I had imagined that the reverse would also be Domed. But, the reverse foto looks to be Flat, to my eyes? "IF" this is indeed correct - then a 2nd metal piece would need to be attached to the reverse to make it Flat. QUESTION: ?? Does the Reverse of the Gorget follow the DOME shape? Or, is it a FLAT surface? [i am not able to determine this aspect when I study the fotos. Thanks! Many Thanks for sharing your SUPER TeNo Gorget with us! ... Dave / dblmed
    3. Hi Tom, Like 'paulbear' notes, to determine the value, I'd look at the "Strip Down" of the Insignia, then + the Drillich itself: 1) Technische EM/NCO Cuff Title = $ 200.00 USD on almost all sites. 2) TeNo Sleeve TAN Eagle Triangle Patch = $200.00 USD [based upon comparative 'rarity' - as Most Blue Triangle Patches are $150 USD, & the TAN is at least a 20x - 50x Rarer Patch. BUT, I've seen them cheaper & I've seen them higher - European Sites.] 3) So, the INSIGNIA Value is about $400 USD, IMO. 4) Now, add-in the quite rare proper TeNo Off-White Drillich Jacket for at least $200.-00 USD, if found Stripped. 5) Total IMO, would end up being $400 [insignia] + $200 [stripped Drillich] = $600.00 for ALL as you show them. [Maybe a little less - or Maybe a little more !!!] "IF" the Pants were present, add-in another $175 - $200 [but, unfortunately the pants are missing. TeNo Items [except for the Dagger & Hewer / Hauer] in general are items which we Niche Collectors go after, and a few guys who want 1 example of ALL of the TR Orgs. There is not a lot of demand from the General TR Collectors.... Yet! ..... Best, Dave / dblmed
    4. TeNo Kameradschafteführer w M43 Piped Cap This outstanding Photo was just sold on eBay today, Aug. 18,2010. The sticker shock price was a bit too steep at 104 Euros! CONGRATS to the new owner & hope that he / she is a WAF member. [Even though I didn't get it, I'm pleased to see that the appreciation of the TeNo is growing.] This photo shows a young TeNo Kameradschafteführer wearing the M43 Piped Cap. with Silver Edge Piping [for that rank.] I am 'guessing' at the Kameradschafteführer rank, as I see no distinctive TeNo 'pips' on his Shoulder Boards. [His youth is historically important - as too many writers repeat the outdated lines of "old guys in the TeNo."] We are seeing pictorially that this has proven to be incorrect. His Right Collar Tab is black, without Numbers, signifying that he is unattached to a specific unit - or - that he just that he is serving outside of the Reich. Buttons are the plain type, without the distinctive TeNo Cog Wheel logo. [This helps to ID the time-line to 1941 or later.] This Grey TeNo Uniform was worn alongside the distinctive Police Green 1943 TeNo-Police Uniform, both until 1945. I can not ID his Ribbon Bar & Pin. A Great Photo for our TeNo Archives! CONGRATS! ... Dave / dblmed
    5. Hi Paul ! It was on [perhaps still is] the Relics-of-the-Reich shop for either $2,500 or $2,750 + Shipping... I've been able to find TeNo tunics for a little less than that & they are considered to be much more 'collectible' - but, to each his own. If I had money to burn, then the Blue Mantel might not seem to be such a stretch. I'd love to have it! I'm overdue for checking in with you - will do soon. ... Best, Dave / dblmed
    6. Schuma - Re-Issued DUTCH Helmets – in ESTONIA - 3 Thanks to Dimas (!) Wonderful photos of the Dutch Helmets re-used by the SCHUMA – and found in Estonia! This type of helmet must rate as one of the "Rarest" types by Helmet Collectors! Seems that the SCHUMA was issued whatever type of Uniforms, Equipment & Helmets, which were available. This is the case for the SCHUMA's use of Uniforms of the Baltic Countries / Ukraine – prior national / or Red Army uniforms; then Allgemeine SS Uniforms, (with usually Blue Collars & Cuffs added) - then Polizei Uniforms - etc. As for the SCHUMA Decal, it follows the Sleeve Patches & Side Cap Patches, which are recognized for the SCHUMA. I was unaware of the SCHUMA Decal on ANY type of helmet, prior to your Posting(!) ..... Thanks Dave / dblmed
    7. Schuma - Re-Issued Dutch Helmets – in ESTONIA - 2 More Schuma - Re-Issued Dutch Helmets – from Dimas' collection. [Yes the Baltic countries, are where one would expect to find Schuma items!] Some fantastic finds!
    8. Schuma - Re-Issued Dutch Helmets – in ESTONIA - 1 My friend Dimas, of Espenlaub Militaria in Estonia, posted this unusual find of SCHUMA troops using Re-Issued Dutch Helmets. http://warrelics.eu/....-items-6747-5/ "…A couple of the helmets found in the positions of Estonian Grz Schtz Regiment- concripts troops, the regiment was assembled from ex police units and the soldiers who were sent back to Estonia from Finnish army in the mid of 1944, after the pact between the Soviet Union and Finland near the end of the war. A little bit about the history of the soldiers who returned from Finnish army duty to Estonia. Most of that people had run away from mobilisation to the Red army and then to the German army in 1940-41 years. Then they were mobilisated to the Finnish army, and only one bataillon of Estonians in Finnish army was sent to the front line. By the ex Estonian admiral Pitka, they were mobilised again to the German forces and were very bad equipped, with Hotchkiss and Degtyarov MG's, MAS-36, Hembrug 1917, Mosin guns etc, and totally worn/damaged uniforms. Most of them tried to run to the home in the first possibility, due to their absolutely pacifistic behaviour. Laterly again they were mobilised by the Soviet troops to fight in the Estonian islands and the Kurland pocket, and again , when they were able, they run to the forests to get away from the war…."
    9. TeNo BLUE Mantel - Complete - 2 It is definitely a beauty! We'd all like to have this one in the Collection... ...Dave/dblmed
    10. TeNo BLUE Mantel - Complete - 1 This type & quality TeNo Mantel doesn't come around very often! A web site recently listed for sale. [A bit too much on the pricey side for me. I'll have to hope that another one shows up.] Described as per the seller: "....VERY RARE TENO OFFICER GREAT COAT. This is a "Stone Mint" Greatcoat for an Officer of the Teno. Dark Blue heavy wool with black rayon lining. Has all Teno embossed Aluminium Buttons to the front and the Single button belt to the reverse. Scharfuhrer ( LTN. ) Rank collar patch with unit X/14 collar patch. Flatwire Oficer Armeagle and corresponding bullion shoulder boards -all insignia is originally sewn. ............This is the first one we have seen and know of NO other. ..." Dave / dblmed
    11. Congrats Langemark ! I add my accolades to those of Paulbear. Your TeNo Officer visor by Clemens Wagner is certainly a beauty & it's in outstanding condition. A top quality Clemens Wagner visor like your is definitely much rarer to find, than is an Erel. Hang onto it & gradually build up your TeNo collection. As you have the time – I'd love to see a clear photo of the Clemens Wagner label. …Txs, Dave/dblmed
    12. Help an Author – TeNo Dagger & Hewer Book I would like to ask for your kind assistance in helping a young author, who is writing an in-depth book about the TeNo Dagger & Hewer (& Accoutrements). His name is DENIS VASYLYEV (i.e. Den) and he is from Kharkov, Ukraine. He is a very serious TR Collector and researcher. He has attended the MAX and Col. Tom Johnson has assisted him with rare research materials and encouragement. The book will be published in both English and in Russian, with full color photos of the various items. I have been corresponding with Den for over 6 months and I am very impressed with his attention to details & his focus on this subject. I've shared with Den my TeNo blade collection, photos and period TR publications - & I hope that you will do the same. In order for us as TR Collectors to get the 'best' Books, we need to take the time to share our collections so that the most comprehensive grouping of examples & information is available. Your name will be given proper Credit for those items which you submit for the book. You can send an email with your Attachments to Den at: TENO@HONORDAGGER.COM For the book, Den is especially looking for Information & Photos regarding: 1. TeNo Daggers & Hewers & Hangers, from your collections. 2. TeNo NCO/EM Portepee examples (it's hard to locate all 8 variations!) 3. High & Low numbered TeNo Daggers or Hewers. 4. Attributed (where the Owner is known) TeNo Daggers or Hewers. 5. Unusual COLORS examples of the Grips of the TeNo Dagger or Hewer. 6. Artwork by Casberg, Döbrich, (& others) of TeNo members wearing the TeNo Dagger or Hewer or Bayonets. 7. Artwork Drawings by Casberg, of the TeNo Dagger & Hewer. 8. Photos of TeNo members wearing the TeNo Dagger or Hewer [or Bayonets.] 9. Photos of Chef der TeNo (O. Limmitzsch, H. Weinreich, W. Smelcher) and Deputy Chef E. Hampe, or other TeNo high officers. 10. Scans of original TR documents and publications relating to edged weapons of the TeNo. 11. FAKE TeNo Daggers or Hewers. (There will be a Chapter on "Fakes" & their identification.) 12. De-Nazified, damaged or in poor condition TeNo Daggers or Hewers. (Since prior books often have pictures of only almost mint items.) 13. Unusual variations of the TeNo Daggers, Hewers, Hangers and related. 14. Any other items or information, which you'd like to submit. To get the very best quality printing, your scans & photos 'Optimally' should be at 300 dpi resolution and an image size of > 1.2 Mb. [Yes, that is BIG, but it's what is needed for quality printing. Also, I'll be pleased to help you re-size any images, should you need assistance. Feel free to contact me through the Forum.] I encourage you to submit your TeNo "Treasures" to Den, as I am confident that his book will be a Super addition to TR Collecting. Contact Den at: TENO@HONORDAGGER.COM Thanks for your Assistance to Den for his "TeNo Dagger & Hewer Book". … Dave/dblmed
    13. TeNo Calendar – 1940 From examining & studying TeNo • TN publications & printed materials, we are much better able to learn about the functions & uses of the Technische Nothilfe at a particular time. Period printed materials & photos are rich sources of information. This very nice complete 1940 TeNo Calendar (with images by the artist Döbrich Steglitz) unexpectedly came my way. The Calendar has 24 Color images (2 per month), all of which are actually "tear away" Postcards, Each Postcard has either 1 perforated "tear away" edge, if the Image is Landscape [Horizontal] – or - 2 perforated "tear away" edges if the Image is Portrait [Vertical.] Of the 24 Postcards, 12 are of the familiar TeNo in action scenes - & - 12 are printed in Black w a Red 1st letter, with inspirational quotations by historical German figures, or by TeNo or NSDAP notables. Only the cover of the 1940 Calendar was not in Postcard format, and it shows a team of Nothelfers using a hinged beam-&-truss, for lifting framework in a construction project. The scenes pictured in the TeNo Calendar from Right-to-Left and from Top-to-Bottom, shows: • Jan 1940 – TN Nothelfers removing debris, following a fire or natural disaster; • Feb 1940 – Nothlefers providing lighting for an NSDAP night parade; • Mar 1940 – Nothelfers clearing a mountain highway collapse; • Apr 1940 – Nothelfers erecting a party Eagle on a framework; • Mai 1940 – Nothelfers salvaging iron & steel, to be reused for military purposes; • Jun 1940 – Nothelfers responding to a truck accident in the countryside; • July 1940 – Nothelfers learning bridge building at TN Reichsschule Belzig; • Aug 1940 – Nothelfers shoring up a building, following damage; • Sep 1940 – A quotation from H. Göring; • Oct 1940 – Nothelfers rebuilding a destroyed railway bridge, during the occupation of the Sudatenland; • Nov 1940 – Nothelfers repairing a break in the waterworks system; • Dec 1940 – Nothelfers in comradeship [Officers & Men] in the bar at the TN Reichsschule Belzig, after a day of Classes & Fieldwork; The diversity of the pictured 1940 TeNo Calendar activities [which would be for pre-1940 era, since it was published in late 1939] shows the complex functions of the TN, in: • City & Countryside Civil Defense; • Countryside Disaster Response; • Countryside Accident Response [which included a Paramedic component]; • Logistical Support for Party Activities; • Military Technical Support for the Heer, as TK 13, Technische Kommandos; • Construction and Reconstruction Activities; These diverse TeNo functions & uses would only increase, as WWII progressed - & the need for the TN's specialized technical units increased. The TN would be called upon to fulfill many varied technical activities both inside of the Reich, as well as in the occupied nations - & - in essentially all fronts of the war. Txs… Dave / dblmed
    14. TeNo GOLD Dress Buckle - of Landesführer XVII Walther Junecke Hi Mike, I'm very fortunate to have acquired the 2 TeNo Box Buckles [brass & Nickel Silver], which are shown above. (Formerly residing in the Marc Vertraete Van der Weyer - Belt & Buckle collection.) They now have a happy & loving new home. I think that the SILVER TeNo Buckle & Brocade has been posted before on our thread, so I'll add the GOLD model of the TeNo Buckle, and then we have the 'whole' family. I do not have the Brocade for it, but the 'Buckle Books' inform us that the Same brocade type was used for both the SILVER & the GOLD TeNo Buckles. I was extremely lucky & met the sole surviving member of the W. Junecke family, from whom I acquired the remaining effects of TN Landesführer Walther Junecke, a few years ago. Junecke was Landesführer of TeNo Landesgruppe XVII, based in Wien (Vienna) from 1938-1943 - when he became Chef der Stabs, for the RATN [Reichsamt Technische Nothilfe] in Berlin. Afterwards he then returned to Vienna, and continued as Landesführer for 1944 - 1945. The GOLD TeNo Buckle is a beauty on its own & is even brighter than shown. This example is marked "A" on the reverse for ASSMANN, the sole maker. Silver models have been found with either "A" - or an - "A-over-40" which is believed to represent the year of initial issuance of the TeNo buckle series. From my 'micro-examining' of a Silver & a Gold TeNo buckle, side-by-side, I believe that ASSMANN used the same Dies for both buckles, especially so, since the number of buckles to be produced was so small. Amongst the effects of Landesführer Walther Junecke, were a large number of photos. The one shown is of him in dress regalia. All of his Uniform effects - Sleeve Eagle; Collar Tabs; Shoulder Boards; Buttons; Mützenkranz; Visor Piping & Chin Cord - are also GOLD in color. Some neat uniform details in the photo, which are seldom seen, are the: • Black Mantel Lapels - authorized for the Ranks of Landesführer and above; • "Cut-Out" type Left Sleeve Eagle [Custom Embroidered]; • Landesführer Junecke is wearing the Gold Buckle with Brocade. Like you, Mike, I was also in the "right place at the right time" and I feel most fortunate to have acquired the TeNo Landesführer Junecke collection. ...Txs, Dave / dblmed
    15. Police CLOTHING Depot ... 1943+ This is a very interesting foto which shows a Polizei 'group' inside of a Clothing Depot. [Not the expected scene for issuing clothing.] • Officer is in the center, seated on a stack of bundled / tied Clothing' • Some NCO's & EM are also on the clothing, with others standing. NOTE: the 4th man from the Right - still has the Clothing ID Tag on his Left Sleeve Cuff!! [He just got a brand new tunic!] Behind him are bundles of trousers, with ID tags. The whole 'group' climbed up on the top shelf of the Clothing Depot [and their photographer had to climb up on an adjacent row of racks to take the picture. (1) The man on the Far LEFT - & - the man on the Far RIGHT, in the Back - are the only ones who have on White 'Drillich' type Uniforms. ? Perhaps they are permanent members of the Staff of the Clothing Depot? (2) What is the thick 'bedding / stuffing' type material on the Far Left? (3) What do you suppose is in the wrapped rectangular bundles, on the 2 shelves below the fellow who just got the 'unissued' tunic? (4) Foto is undated. It does seem to be a bit strange for a foto pose, but it must have been 'official' and OK, as the Officer is prominently in the center. I'm sure that you will see many more details. ...Txs, ...Dave / dblmed
    16. Wasserschultzpolizei NCO & Cadets - w Semaphore Flags Wasserschultzpolizei photos don't seems to come around too often. This one [posted for a collecting Buddy] is a real winner, IMO. It pictures some type of fairly informal Class [i'm guessing Semaphore, based upon the 2 Flags at the lower center.] The guys [? Cadets] are dressed informally & several men are even bare footed! Ages of the men seem to vary quite a bit. The WSP NCO, Center, must be highly regarded by his group, as they seem to proudly crowd around him. Lots of neat Wasserschultzpolizei details to check out in this foto. ...Txs, Dave / dblmed
    17. TeNo Box Buckle - Congrats MIKE (!) Mike, what an Amazing find - a TeNo Box Buckle, in the Brass Configuration. [& Mike acquired this Buckle directly from a Vet's family! Amazing! Just goes to show that there are still "TR treasures" out in the woodwork/boxes/closets.] I'm not a buckle afficianado, so I'll use Hugh Page Taylor's text from "Police, Vol. 2." "...No regulations have been found that address the wear of the rectangular enlisted buckle. However, a TN enlisted buckle was illustrated in the Assmann & Sohne sales catalogue (probably 1932 - 1933), and in a 1933 Steinhauer & Lück sales catalogue. The 47mm x 63mm buckle was of plain brass with a silvered face plate featuring a hammer to form a "T" and a capital letter "N" superimposed on an eight spoke gear. ..." Also a Nickel Silver TeNo Box Buckle of this same type, has been found also. It looks to be by the same maker to my eyes, but I don't know the fine points of these. Of Collector interest is that there are only 5-6 of the Brass & Nickel Silver TeNo Box Buckles in known Collections. They are a 'once-in-a-lifetime' find, IMO. [Who knows how many are still 'in the woodwork' like Mike's splendid Buckle?] ...Best, Dave / dblmed
    18. DUTCH TN • TeNo [ the Technische Noodhulp ] Side Cap Marc Verstraete Van der Weyer posted a very, very special Dutch TN Side Cap: http://www.wehrmacht...ht=teno&page=13 This is an extremely rare item, as a Dutch TN Side Cap is an almost 'never seen' TeNo item. The Dutch TN was comprised of only about 4,500 Noodhelpers – so any surviving items are a treasure. Marc's example helps to solve some unanswered questions about the headgear of the Dutch TN. • We have a Dutch TN / Technische Noodhulp 'share & discussion' thread going, posted at: http://stirnpanzer.c....=teno&start=40 A number of Dutch collectors have added their varied Dutch TN items, but a confirmation of the front 'Emblem' of the Side Cap was missing – until now! Winkelman posted a 'screen capture' of a foto from a WWII history program, shown on Dutch TV. [as is attached below] The front 'Emblem' of the Dutch TN - Technische Noodhulp Side Cap could be seen as a "Square" – & - Not as the Rhomboid [Diamond] shape of the German TN, with the Black-White-Red circles in it. With seeing Marc's Side Cap, it solves the mystery & confirms the Dutch TN Side Cap emblem! The Dutch TN used the TeNo "Classic" 'TN-in-Cog' emblem motif – much like the emblem of their Armscheibe [Left sleeve patch]. Thanks to Marc for his Posting. ..Txs, Dave / dblmed
    19. Foto of TeNo Car Pennant Banner – on a Car! Thanks Paul - Yes, finding the Banner was an unexpected event & I treasure it for the TeNo history which it represents. I'd forgotten that I also had a foto of a TeNo Car Pennant Banner – on a car! [since I never anticipated ever finding an actual TN banner when I got the foto, finding this is very nice surprise.] The TeNo Banner shown in the Car foto is either for an Ortsführer or a Bezirsksführer (depending on the width of the outer Aluminum tresse.) In the very large Landesgruppen, such as LG X – based in Hamburg, they did have a Bezirsksgruppe as an intermediate level above the various Ortsgruppen. So, who knows? The TeNo Car Pennant Banner [stander] was flown from the Left front fender. I don't know 'if' any other banner was used on the Right front [except that we could expect a swastika flag on it!] Maybe the nice blue TeNo Banner was sufficient for the TN guys. The car is a big Mercedes (MBZ) 'touring car' which must have been one of the perks of the office. I don't know the MBZ model / type – but I'll bet that some collector does know how to ID it. … Best, Dave / dblmed
    20. TeNo / TN Ortsführer Car Pennant Banner I just received this nice TeNo / TN car pennant banner, for the rank of Ortsführer. [it would have been attached to a mini-flag pole, mounted to the left front fender of his official vehicle. A TN 'open Eagle' finial (topper) was attached to the top of the mini-pole. The TN banners & pennants were made such that the Eagle's head faced the attaching pole.] I am really very pleased with the banner. Sources tell us that there were an estimated 2,500 TN Ortsgruppen during the TR. So there were a number of these car banners around at one time. This is the only complete TeNo car pennant banner [rectangular shaped] that I've come across. I'm sure that there must be other examples out there in collections. … Below is how Bill Shea [The Ruptured Duck] describes it: "… RARE TeNo High Ranking Official's Fender Pennant... one of a kind offering. This pennant is rectangular rather than the usual triangle shape. This would indicate a higher ranking official. It measures approximately 8.75" x 12" and is made of a deep royal blue vertically ribbed fabric. Then woven directly onto the fabric surface is the silver flat wire machine applied TeNo eagle. This very distinctive insignia is repeated on the back. There is a silver bullion border that is about 3/16" wide and is inset from the edge by approximately 1/2". This is all sewn over a steel framework which has adjustable attachments for slipping over the pole from the fender of the car. Condition wise, it is overall Very Good. There are some visible stains on both sides (see pictures). There is also one small hole (the actual hole is pin size but the damage to the surface is closer to that of a small thumb tack). But taking into consideration the scarcity of the piece, the condition is readily acceptable. I would consider this to be 10 times rarer than an SS fender pennant. …" Txs, … Dave / dblmed
    21. TeNo Canteen - Photo of in use wear. Hi Camonut / Tom I was looking through some of my TeNo photos & found this one. It shows a TeNo men, in the off-white Drillich uniform, from a BD [bereitschaft Dienst] unit standing next to their Bereitschaft Wagen. Of interest is the 3rd fellow from the Left. He is carrying a Canteen which has a very dark color - pretty much like your Canteen. We can't determine whether the color of the canteen cover is BLACK, or dark BLUE, but it is definitely a very dark color. Finding fotos of TN men with a Canteen is harder than locating TN Dagger or Hauer (Hewer) fotos(!) . Best, ... Dave/dblmed
    22. TeNo Canteen [Posted for Camonut / Tom] .while at the SOS I picked up a Canteen reported to be TeNo. ...well when I got it home and referred to page 642 in Vol II of Angolia & Taylor's "German Police Book." ...,I discovered that it is the EXACT one pictured in the book, even down to the 2 small spots btw the hole in the cover and the cap retaining strap. You'll have to look closely in my photo for the 2 spots, but they are there!!! I guess the photo, as opposed to the actual canteen was provided to Angolia for inclusion in the book...because the color of the canteen cover is BLACK, not BLUE as described in the book. I admit from the picture it looks that, but it isn't. ...Txs, Camonut
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