Thank you for replying. There was a movie made about this event, it is called Kiowa Down, it can be obtained through the Military Channel. The KW was shot down by an R.P.G. which as you probably know is not a very common event, alot of news was never reported, however Tal Afar was one of the most dangerous places to be, and as the Ebay page tells you we were given a clear ok to engage, for five months we had been dealing with the people of this city, our sister element had set up station in the city and were run out, they were pounded regularly by every type of indirect fire that could be sent thier way, when they finaly became combat ineffective we were sent to plus them up and to continue raiding strong holds. On the day before this event we had had over 50 R.P.G.'s fired at us while we moved in to try to get ahold of the strong points that were being held along the M.S.R.. This event became out of control, being out numbered 250,000 to about 400, and our chain of command had decided in the wake of the Black Water event earlier that year that none of the equipment would even be left behind. For a more intense account view the movie, it is obtainable. I do agree with the comment that these medals are handed out like candy, however in the Infantry world nothing is above the job, so these medals are not very common, as at that point atleast. We did for the most part all get these awards, however I feel we earned them, the award is decorated with the V device. And my opinion is that this is what we wear to hide the scars. I do not support the selling of the award, I am from Gettysburg, PA a small town north of the Mason Dixon line that is adorned with the sacrafices that changed the world, that is what made being an Infantry soldier an easy choice for me. I have never known why others do it, it is all great untill a war comes along, I miss all the guys that have gone away, but honestly find it very hard to talk to them at times, however I rarely miss or avoid any opertunity to to be coached by any Vet. And I do know what they paid. And do believe whole heartedly in the Infantry Man's Creed. Again thank you.