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Looking more and more into polar expeditions, I was wondering if somebody knew something about this topic from the Russian angle. Did the Russians do something there, were any medals or badges issued? Especially in Spitzbergen?

Any help is appreciated.

As good or as bad as the Nimmergut may be one has to know that he used a lot of photoshoped pictures in there as much as known fakes and fabrications.

The crown and oak leaf devise has nothing to do with anything sanctioned by the orders chancellery before 1918, but could certainly be something given by the "Ordensgemeinschaft" long after the wars.

To make this thread a little bit more colorful

But no name

Congratulations - a bar with stroies to tell.

On a side note: As a seasoned business traveler there is no comparison with todays and those days travel. Imagine going to war in South america in the 19th century.

...and another before 1918 Inhaber Cross for comparison:

It actually looks as if an SA3aX would have fit there very nicely for a Hauptmann/Rittmeister dR/dL

I agree. Especially since this is a bar made after 1934. The soldier was already awarded with the albert with crown.

But keep in mind that the crown was awarded in larger number to the likes of a Major rank during WWI. Mostly for retirement during the war. Hence the combination is possible. I used to own a similar bar with the addition of a Griffin order knight.

Only pre Doorn from before 1918:

I have not paid much attention to this topic, but remembered the Eagle of the Knights. It is actually pictured in Thies's 22.Auction page 36 #75:

I`m sure you mean one third class with crown and swords in silver gilt (beauty)

and one 4th class with crown with front med. made out of gold (also beauty)

A very nice Spange

OK, I went back into the original post and added to the pictures.

I`m sure you mean one third class with crown and swords in silver gilt (beauty)

and one 4th class with crown with front med. made out of gold (also beauty)

A very nice Spange

Both 3rd classes are Silver gilt!

Saschaw thanks for making us aware, really disgusting somebody is taking 4th class examples and turning them into 3rd class, destroying the badge in the process. Can any member post an orginal gilded 3rd class piece so the newer collectors don't get burned.

This may help: two MVO's on medal bars. Both 4th class with crown and swords in silver gilt:

What I always liked about those are those bars that may be "home"-made and do not fit in any regulations.

For sale on the E-Stand a named (von Hollen) Stahlhelm flag bearer group:

Wilhelm issued a new decree on January 18, 1865, as follows:

The stars of the Red Eagle- and the Crown Order 1st class will not be worn simultaneously. The star of the Red Eagle Order 1st class will not be worn anymore if somebody has newly been awarded the Crown Order 1st class. In this case a ribbon in the colors of the Red Eagle Order made of enamel will be put around the tips of the Crown Order star and around the cross arms of the insignia itself. The Red Eagle Order 1st class cross has to be worn around the neck. Same was ordered to be done in case the Red Eagle Order 1st class was awarded after somebody had received the Crown Order 1st class. It gets even more complicated with swords, swords on ring and the oak leaf of the Red Eagle Order.

Hallo,

does anybody know anything about this medal?

Thanks in advance

...and the reverse