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Rothe made a lot of medals and order decorations way into our time.

the FR mark certainly indicates that this star may have been made by Rothe. Yet, if it would have been made before 1918 markins for the silver/gold content would have been punched somewhere as well.

David,

the order is mentioned in most of the literature. I am sure there are old state hand books from that time, but the actual archives burned unfortunately down.

The House order of Hessen was a real house order in any case. Meaning: immediate family, friendly allies....

That would be the "House order of Hessen". Basically the predecessor of the Ludwigs Order. I believe since 1806 or 1808:

the link would actually be this one:

Crown Order Medal

After some bad experience with php programming I moved everything back to html. Sorry for the inconvinience.

The Bussel Army Museeum has not just this one, but lots and lots of Napleonic and other orders and decoration from all the German countries. I am not sure if they are still on display since the last time I had visited that place is well over 10 years ago, but I do know that they are opeing some up again in September/October 2006. I will actually be there.

Another good museeum is the Palais Het Loo in Apeldorn, Holland...unbelievable stuff.

Very much suited to bring the whole family along

Rick,

this is great stuff. Documents are so interesting, but most collctors seem to shy away due to the old German writting etc.

Yet, it is not that difficult to learn the old alphabet. Most documents, at least after the 1840th were actually printed and not handwritten. This at least garanties a certain standart and helps the learning process.

I will try to post some as well.

Thanks for sharing

Andreas

They claim that everything comes from the family. Well, some paperwork apeared so far proving this.

For the medal bar: Some of those medals decorations are extremyl rare, especially the St.George Medal, SEHO Prinzen size and the spanish badges. The base price easily equals the value for all single medals. It is very likely that this medal bar is good.

An in even greater detail:

...amazing the detail of the center!!!

Already shown in another post, but with more detail: The Ernst Kempfer bar with Hamburg Hanseatic Cross:

I just realized that our friend made a mistake by filling out those forms send back to the publisher of the Ordensalmanach (We know that they send out a questionnaire in order to create this book?!). He only claimed to have the Oldenburg House Order P-F-L knight 2nd class (OldV3b), but actually had the Knight second class with CROWN (1st position on medal bar). Yet his knight second class of the Hessian Order of Philip is not with but rather without Crown (3rd position on medal bar)

Also, it is hard to see, but his Knight Cross 2nd Class of the Saxe-Weimar Order of the White Falcon is this type:

Run a train station that visiting Royals arrive in and collect hardware??

You got it. I guess there is a lot of bowing involved, too.

Did you guys see this picture at the upcoming Hermann Historica auction?

Lot No. 6159

Geschenkfoto

des Bahnhofsvorstehers 1.Klasse Kr?ger im Berliner Hauptbahnhof. Uniformbrustbild mit angelegten Ordensdekorationen (21 Orden). Im vergoldeten Stellrahmen mit geschliffener Glasscheibe. 14,5 x 25 cm.

Mr. Kr?ger must have run a tight shift at the main train station in Berlin. Certainly a very popular travel destination those days.

This guy had definately taken a lot of business trips!

Sometimes I wish they would still do that. My bar would be infinitifly long.

Instead, one gets millions of frequent flyer miles. Not as pretty as medals.

Maybe something completely new. I don't collect them, but am always intrigued by the craftsmanship. Those "order" decorations of those monasteries. Mostly the abbess would wear a decoration and maybe one other. Needless to say that those decorations are extremly rare.

This is an example of the monastery in Visbec

Very nice indeed.

The swords on ring as well as those regular ones were actually applied seperatly. Yet, this all happend before the gilding process. I examined the piece and liked it very much. I hope to get the new Lippe Book rather soon. Maybe it will bring some light into this matter.

Claudio,

you are too fast, while I am still trying to find that pin back cross picture all is posted already. No, I do not own this one, but was always courious about this group. Especially because of the officers cross, which can be found at:

Lippe Officer Cross Swords and Swords on Ring

I hate to put this one in here, too, but have always been wondering if an identification would be possible:

Joe,

it is the old Orden Militaria Magazin of the BDOS. I just got my copy from Helmut Weitze.