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measurements on the EK, please!

any thoughts on the manufacture date on the EK?

i LOVE the wide flange on the cross.

joe

Approx. 35x35 mm

So who was the recipiant Andreas?

The good and bad news is that I got it from one of my folks that take care of complete estates. They never seem to know names when it comes to medals. I guess they are afraid one would snoop behind there backs.

Lets not forget the details of the Iron Cross:

Just got this in the mail:

Let me add to this thread, that I was consulted on this particular item many times before and after the action. After being a scary thought considering the price this piece was sold for.

I can only say - as usual - think first, buy afterwards.

...just run across this interesting contemporary article published in the New York Times:

link will lead you to the *.pdf version of it.

All orders awarded after 1916 were suposed to be made from gilt silver. Red Eagle 3rd class, Crown order 3rd class and everybody knows of course of the Hohenzollern in silver gilt.

the Crown Orders and Red Eagle Orders are of course a lot more scares. They will be marked, like the Hohenzollern knight with the silver content mark "938".

I guess I am getting serious about this. Just arrived:

Paul,

I am truly amazed about the possibilities of research these days. When I started collecting nobody ever thought identifieing those groups.

Well done

Andreas

Yes indeed.

The incorrect portrait 1st Model Alberts were mostly exchanged (quietly) for the correct portrait M1876s, which is another reason they are so rare.

There were less than 500 of the 1866-71 "mit Schwertern" in what became the Knight 1st Class grade, and from medal bars I have seen ALL of them in groups of career officers were exchanged for the new M1876. I can't recall ever seeing the bearded model with Xs still in a medal bar, only loose. Maybe the recipients just bought the new type.

?imagine the embarrassment portraying for 26 years the wrong guy on official order decorations!

My goodness, this was possibly the fastest ever. Thousand thanks from Virginia!

Andreas

Do you guys think that this one is a candidate to be identified? It is the "Treuen Kriegern" Cross for 1866

Absolutely agree, those swords are not from a authorized manufacturer. Yet, the piece looks old and was for sure purchased in time. Maybe for a medal bar.

Here it is:

I did nevertheless toss the cup out. Anyway...

It arrived a few days ago by mail. Several Iron Crosses out of one family back to the Napoleonic wars. Among the pieces one vaulted Iron cross 1st class 1914 in its case, 2nd class 1914, 2nd class 1870, War Merit Cross 2nd class with swords and a tin mug with lid, supposingly containing another Iron Cross 1st class. The family did not know more about it, except that the mug was used by the former recipient during his time as a POW in Russia. He had somebody put the Iron Cross into the Hollow housing of the lit and soldered it shut. I was a bit skeptical at first, but anyway took the risk. Once I had opened the lid a Iron Cross 1st class fell indeed out of the housing of the lid, wrapped in some greenish cloth. I unwrapped it and found a slightly rusted Iron Cross 1st class made by SW (Sy & Wagner). I then realized that the wrapper showed some embroidered writing: Kurland!

Surprise, the following cuff title was used to contain the Iron Cross and prevented it from making rattling noised in the lid!

I will post some pictures of the whole lot during the next couple of days.

Really impressive stuff! I would say that he is wearing 8 decorations on the mid line, possibly even 9, at the very front there appears to be a ribbon , the actual award is hidden by the others, but I could be wrong.

What about the neck decorations?

I don't think those are neck decorations. At least not the bottom ones. Compare their size to the once on the bar and to the actual Bulgarian Commander Cross

..and the little lady that it belonged to.

...and what a beauty Now you know the real reason for venturing into this new field of memorabilia.

If you like to read more about Hossauer:

http://www.medalnet.net/Hossauere.htm

Who likes those Members of Supreme Soviets badges? Maybe we can get a collection together here:

Something not many have seen for your enjoyment:

To avoid hectic Email inquiries: The group is not in my possession.

I can not recommend it highly enough.

You are not going to find a genuine PLM for $1,500 but usually there is something for everybody. There is, however, another factor which is hard to describe but I think is worth mention.

Sure, it?s not like ?the good old days?, but even with the recent passing of ?The Giants? of American Imperial German collectors there is a wealth of knowledge present in the form of an emerging new generation of collectors. Many of these collectors (and I might add, dealers), both American and German, many of whom are members of this forum, are most generous in sharing their knowledge.

Aside from all of that, they are a good bunch to spend a couple of days with. Yes, I recommend it.

Best wishes,

Wild Card

I would like to add to this that it is for sure the most diverse medal fair world wide. From Annam to Zansibar, there is something for everybody. Do not underestimate the networking opportunities. I have been attending OMSA for almost 11 years now and had fun every time.