hc8604

Indeed!

I posted them in this thread

http://gmic.co.uk/in...ata-furiosorum/ (somewhere in the middle)

http://gmic.co.uk/in...um/page__st__20 (somewhere in the middle)

http://gmic.co.uk/in...um/page__st__60 (at the bottom)

Cheers,

Nick

Yep, too bad they were damaged. Not sure how.

The Armed Forces Museum in Taipei has "his" set of Order of the Blue Sky and White Sun.

The Chiang Kaishek Memorial Hall also has a bunch of medals that belonged to Chiang.

I am not so sure if this belonged to him. This order seems to have the new Taiwan version brooches.

Yeah far from the typical bronze fakes.

Not much info about the Communist side of these medals.

looks good. The ribbon and suspension is not the typical fake out there. Would need to see the reverse to be 100% sure.

Seems the site does not support Chinese. :(

On the obverse, it should be as you said Jiang and wu, but the other is Li 李

On the back I see Guangdong and award given. The other characters don't translate well and I assume to be a name.. probably name of an organization or something.

廣東 Guangdong-a province of China

巡按使李

奬- award

給- to give

巡按使李 searching online does not give much results, mostly broken links.

If you are looking for Japanese medals, go to Japan and look for them. I doubt many native Taiwanese were awarded any during the occupation period and also doubt local Chinese were awarded the general type of medals during WWII. So of course you can't find Japanese medals in China or Taiwan, why look??

Let's just say I avoid anything being sold out of China or Taiwan.....

I found many good medals on Taiwan. But don't make generalizations.

For the first one, have you seen a real version that it has mimicked?

Looking at the medal, it is probably plated silver or uses a silver like metal. It has paint enamel judging by how the paint runs before it dried and the paint sinking in to the detail. Made out of a mold in one piece.

I actually reported the guy to ebay, but they told me I must call them to explain why since writing it was not enough. It seems they turn a blind eye as they still make money on those sales even to build up a fake feedback. All in all, caveat emptor.

I have seen those on some Chinese sites... did they already make it on ebay?

Speaking of ebay, I have noticed a lot of people bidding on those "copper" made fakes. Not sure why, unless it is mostly shill bidders or to build up feedback from Chinese sellers. Saw this one guy selling coins and he had about 200 of his feedbacks from Chinese bidders all with 1 or 0 feedback ha..

I think he means the Chiang administration from 1932-1946. Chiang was not president the whole time until his death

I believe Wang died in 1944 or his death was caused by an assassination I believe. It continued on without him until the end of the war.

Kanji would be referred to the Japanese use of the Chinese characters in their language and only refers to the Japanese writing and not Chinese writing itself. Hanzi is the appropriate term in Mandarin Chinese.

中國 would refer to the country of China. (Zhongguo/chungkuo)

中華 could be used as the term Chinese or 華 itself. (Zhonghua/chunghwa)

hope this helps...

I also vote that it is Sun Yatsen

I would also add maybe up to the the 1930s. The 1940s was chaos as there was a war with Japan and full blown civil war right after. I don't think these type were awarded on Taiwan. Probably a different type of medal or maybe a certificate. But these are just my hypothesis for it.

3) The hook on the back of the ribbon is not typical for most Chinese medals. I've never seen it on Chinese medals before. However, it is typical of Japanese medals. Suggests a wartime occupation issue.

Hugh, it is more common than you think.

First line is the company name.

Second line is "Red Cross of China"

Not sure on the third line, probably organization something.

The Red Cross of China issued the medals themselves and not any government entities, I believe.... hard to find nonetheless.

Today, there are two Red Cross of China...

It should be this piece... it has a duck on the front: http://www.omsa.org/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=6305

Hi Nick,

Looking at the medal.. I noticed there are three holes on top. Probably missing the three stars that usually shows it is 1st class?

Or it could be MP Service award... can't remember now.

Hi Nick, I believe that one is a KMT award for members. Right, Taiwan period.

Seems a lot of Taiwan medals showing up lately... 5th class Cloud Banner, 3rd and 6th Precious Tripod, and now a Brilliant Star

Variation A seems to be Japanese influenced. The flower is typical design for the Japanese way of drawing out the cherry blossom. The plum blossom would be fully rounded petals.

with all those names in that newspaper clip... there seems to be a better chance to find one in the UK.

Great post too. :cool:

With these galloping prices pretty soon nobody will

Only those who have enough money...

Everything is going up in price, and our pay checks... that's another story.