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Thanks, that's clearer now. Effectively, it may be medical related, that seems logic. But I think there are many illogical things when we study History.

Paul, sorry but could you explain to me what is strange with these tabs by being blue ? What should be the right color ?

I'm really not used to sonderfuhrer items !

I hope these are not french made ! :lol:

Ok, I did some researches, and this fabric could not be synthetic but only artificial... it could be a variant of the artificial silk/rayon widely used for lining.

IMHO private purchase tunics is a world...contained in the wide world of fabrics and fashion ; if we don't know the second, we don't know the first...

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Thanks for the kind words ! My camera is a Kodak DX7590 zoom digital camera. The auto focus is not very easy to use; but when well stabilized, not too much zoomed, I just have to work the pictures a bit with Photoshop, and here you are !

Er...I'm not paid by Kodak...

It is true that when I sell (it is rare !), the buyers have good detailed photos...

The shoulder boards which I delicately just removed (they were surely post-war resewn), to study it easily :

It seems to be a re-used cardboard in it ; is it a common feature ?

The other board :

The paper tag was probably put on recently by a seller I think.

One the two buttons which retained the boards :

Are the buttons period or not ? The only markings are H.A on each.

Hello!

I am sure that as the war progressed, anything conceivable was used.I have seen camo pieces used for parts of liners!

I'm surprised, because I have read that service tunics have not been produced later in the war since they has been replaced by waffenrocks and fliegerbluses ? That's why I asked this in an other thread. Anyway, I think it would not be surprising that polyamide would be used at the beginning of the war. Angolia's book reports that some kind of artificial fibers were quite common before the war. Why not synthetics ? It was new and perhaps considered as modern.

I have french Arm?e de l'Air tunics : one contemporary example (eighties or nineties) and one oldier (perhaps fifties). Each other have the exact same type of fabric for sleeves liner.

So the real question would be : since when it was used on military tunics ? If you tell me that during your interesting collector's experience you saw such items, so it should be ok !

Thank you !

How can I do ?

Paul, I hope it will work ; I just changed my hosting website since the other does not work anymore...

Hello

For Paul (and the others of course), here are two images (with and without flash) of the sleeve liner which features one of my four pockets tunics. This is surely synthetic, isn't it ? I learned (on Wikipedia... don't know if it's a good source ) that this kind of fabric (polyamides, including nylon) has been invented by both an american and a german in the thirties and immediately used in textile industry and for parachutes.

On Uniforms and Traditions of Luftwaffe volume 1, it is said that a 1935 order impresses the use of cotton for tunics sleeve liners, but the next orders seem not to be known. So I'm a bit confused.

Any comments about these informations ?

Thank you.

Hello

Here are the tabs which were sewn on my tunic ; sorry but they are very very salty :

Hello all

do you know when the service tunic (without the collar hanging system) stopped to be produced ? I think an official order forbid working this kind of garment at one moment, since only waffenrocks and fliegerbluses were allowed to be produced ?

thanks

Ok !

Thank you for your comments !

In fact I have not the ribbon bar with me today since I'm not at home now ; but I don't think there are holes in the second ribbon. Tomorrow I will go back home and I'll look at it closer.

That's too bad if it features an incoherence ! It's not easy to look at behind the backing, but could it be more instructive by seeing the metal parts ?

Hi!

It is great to see you here.

From what I can see, I dont find any faults with this ribbon bar(construction wise). I am far from an expert with these so I look forward to seeing the opinions of the more learned!

Paul

Hello Paul

it was pinned directly into the fabric of the administrative tunic that you already know.

Hello all

I'm new here, coming from WAF ; thanks to PaulR. Good to be here.

I would like to submit you this ribbon bar which came directly attached to a salty Lw four pocket tunic. Are your feelings good or bad about it ?

Thanks