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    Kameli

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    1. But I couldn't find any additional infos about this "Jäger Cross" (is this the correct name?). Perhaps one of you can help out?

      - Is it a German/Prussian badge or is it a Finnish badge (that's what I believe)?

      - Who awarded the cross and was it an official award?

      - To whom it was awarded and who was allowed to wear it? (Every Member of the Battallion or just the Germans or just the Finns?)

      - How many crosses were awarded approx.? Were all badges/crosses individually numbered as Kameli mentioned?

      ...and finally: How much are these crosses worth and how easy are they to get respectively where can you most likely get one?

      Hello Leo!

      Here are some quick answers, I hope these will help you:

      The official name for this badge in Finnish is Jääkärikunniamerkki. The nearest translation in English is Jaeger badge but Jaeger cross will be also good because it is unofficially called Jääkäriristi (=Jaeger cross). But as I mentioned, the Jaeger badge is the most "official" in English.

      The Jaeger badge is Finnish badge. It was designed by Mrs. Ellinor Ivalo and its first issued was on February 24th, 1919.

      The badge was given for everyone who was served in battallion, both Finnish and Germans ( at least there were some whom were not awarded the badge because a bad behavior, for example in political opinions etc.).

      The badge was awarded from "the women of Finland" and it was accepted as an official award. About 1800 badges awarded.

      The badges were numbered (later some replacement may have been issued without but not many) and the attachment was with two needles. Later that was changed for screwback in many badges.

      The Jaeger badge is quite often availeable in auctions, so it not very hard to get. The price has been somewhere around 1000-1500 euros depending the contion of the badge and to who it was awarded.

      Regards

      Jussi-Pekka

    2. I am not sure what you guys mean with "speaking Finnish correctly" and so on, but as I wrote earlier the official name is what said. Also, the city was liberated (if you don?t think it from the reds side what we obviously don?t do!), that is a well-known fact at least here in Helsinki.

      English translation "liberation" is widely used and it is an usefull name and tells better what happened. But still the fact is that the correct Finnish name for the medal is the capture. My opinion is that we can?t change the official name given in 1918 with how we feels or how it sounds today.

      Regards,

      Jussi-Pekka

    3. That is the LIBERATION of Helsinki Medal!!!!

      Rick,

      That battle liberated the town from the reds , but the name for the medal in Finnish is "Helsingin VALTAUKSEN muistomitali" and it means "The commemorative medal of THE CAPTURE of Helsinki".

      Regards,

      Jussi-Pekka

    4. (Rather ironic design, since there were no Finnish armored knights-- being the last country Christianized in Europe!).

      Remember the original meaning and symbolism of these battling arms: The straight sword of west against the curved sabre of east!

      It was widely used symbol in Finland.

      / Jussi-Pekka

    5. I don't own one. This is an image found on the net and I'm not 100% sure whether or not its of a real badge. I'd love to find a badge for my collection. i've seen a few from others collections that have had crew post added instead of the little pins.

      ccj,

      The one in your picture lokks an original one.

      These little pins were original, but they have been went broke in many badges, so the screwback has been added later.

      Regards,

      Jussi-Pekka

    6. About the badges:

      There are three different badges for Badge for Disabled Veterans, so these are not excatly a wounded badges.

      The badges are:

      1. Badge for Disabled Veterans of Liberation war 1918

      - established 29.8.1925 by President of Finland

      - that badge was given also those who were wounded. There was a wounded tribes in use after war. The tribes were sew on the sleeve.

      - numbered and also the name of the recipient carved on the screwplate

      2. Badge for Disabled veterans of Winter war 1939-40

      - established 12.12.1940 by President of Finland

      - to get badge must be a permanent invalid

      - numbered

      3. Badge for Disabled Veterans of the wars 1939-45

      - this badge was established soon after the wars and this badge included also the Winter war veterans, so the Badge for Disabled veterans of Winter war 1939-40 was not given after that.

      - to get the badge must be apermanent invalid, at least 10 % disability.

      - NOT numbered

      Regards,

      Jussi-Pekka

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