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I have never seen a multi medal grouping to a female aux. member before! I would love to hear her stories.

I am afraid that there are no storys left...she died last year and I bought the little group today from her daughter. Her daughter told me that this is all the rest that survived the life episode "world war II" of Eleonore Zarges.

So research is possible by the regimental history....

Matthias

Today I want to share my current find:

A very nice little group for a Luftnachrichten - Oberhelferin:

Eleonore Zarges

Luftnachrichten Regiment 250

10. Flugmelde - Leit Kompanie (stationed in Bujarei).

The KVK document is signed by the commanding General Bernhard Waber. The KVK itself is without any makers mark also the Romanian medal.

Very nice is the little certificate for the "crusade against communism" medal (only some weeks before Romania changed side).

Not the best condition, but very charming and not to see on every corner (and I am pleased about - and because of this I "have to" share it :-)

If the thread swich to Legion Condor Badges on Panzer Wrapper, I can keep up:

This is Karl Wald from Panzer Regiment 8

(Schmids ribbon is a EK ribbon)

ok ... something useful I can also contribute...

This is Paul Schmid, Panzer J?ger Abteilung 235

My document is the number 24498. The more recent findings have overtaken my 1997 knowledge :-) Thanks Paul for this correction. However, about "only" 60,000 Japanese soldiers were direcly involved in this conflict.

Best regards

Matthias

In 1997 I wrote an article in the German OMM Nr. 81 about the Japanese siege of Tsingtau and specially about this medal (very impressive little piece of modern Japanese war history).

Because of the rotating system of the Japanese units, the number of awarded medals should be between 60.000 to 65.000 awards. The largest number were surely awarded to the 29. Jap. Inf. Brigade (Gen. Johoji), the 23. Jap. Brigade (Gen. Horiuchi) and the 24. Jap. Brigade (Gen. Yamada).

Regards

Matthias

Sorry, but...I had to do it ...

ok...I do a little ahead now, without waiting wild cards response.

The "986" and "F" (between antlers) marked medals are officially coined by the State Mint in Stuttgart with the original pre 1918 tools at the end of 1957. This very unique process was for replacement of lost pieces of the veterans (these pieces could only be issued against precise confirmation of bestowal of the golden bravery medal)...so this medal is an official ( - replacement) and a rare one.

Best regards

Matthias

And it is marked ?986? on the rim next to the ?se. I have always been of the impression that this is a first issue while the ?333?s? are second issue. Any ideas or comments are most welcome.

Regards,

Wild Card

Is the "986" the only mark on the rim ? Are there probably one, or two other marks (a "F" between two antlers and/or a circle with a dot in the middle)?

Attached you can see what I mean.

Best Regards

Matthias

...just only one year has past and now the first dokument will be shown :-)

This is a typical Wennberg FrO 3b with swords (untipical at this example is the medaillon ring in normal gold, instead of the for this manufacturer usual redgold).

...Are the Otto Wenning examples of the knight 2nd class swords in gold too or just the cross? By chance have you a picture of a Wenning example that you can share....

The swords of the knights 2nd class (made by Otto Wennberg) are always gold. I have researched and published (in the last two publications of the German collectors society -BDOS- magazine) the very interesting biographies of the jewellers Eduard Foehr and Carl Zinser. Next publication will be the bio of Otto Wennberg...This for the very first time published data and facts will clarify many presumptions and allegations to the Wuerttemberg jewellers...

Best regards

Matthias

Hi SPM

Thanks for your insight , an excellent idea to find out when Otto Wennberg was in business, must admit I never knew of this jeweler before

Sincerely

Yankee

Otto Wennberg was in busines from 1903 until 1915. The case shown is only produced in 1914/15 when Ott Wennberg produced the FrO 3b with swords. The FrO 3b shown here is definitely not a Wennberg, it is a 1914/15 produced cross from the manufacturer Eduard Foehr. The art of connection of the swords is not a question of period, only a question of the manufacturer (the double eyelet system for example is only used by the Stuttgart Mint). Foehr for Example always fixed the swords directly to the cross...

The very early 1914 (and early 1915) WWI Friedrich Orders are always in gold and not silver gilt.

Best regards

Matthias

Hi Matthias, I found a little info on your man, he was assigned to 2.K/88 in February of '39 though he had been in Spain since Nov. 1938.

There was a Uffzs Gunther Wagner assigned to 3.K/88 in November 1938. Probably the same guy, just a typo in the name in the book, the dates match up and sound right.

Great stuff, do you have any of his docs with all this?

Alan

....I had much to do the last time therefore I noticed the progress of my thread only today....

Hi Alan,

Thanks a lot for your information!!! Unfortunately only the medals (and a few photos with no helpful inscription) were left (the documents possibly were thrown away as the household of G?nther Wagner were dissolved)...

ALL ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS WELCOME

Hey Jacques,

Nice and really (!) impressive collection !!!

Best regards

Matthias

... artistic ones ...

I can provide this one.

The military estate of Fw. Paul Schmid, Panzerj?ger Abteilung 235, 198 ID.

...and this is the really (double really) rare source book of socialist cuba medals (in german!, maybe DDR armed forces booklet, because there is no publisher or author inprinted, only text no pics)...but the best fact is....it's mine

...but I'll post more photos..

..still waiting...

Gratulation!

Matthias

...and what is actually reasonable ?

Greetings Matthias. That is one old and wonderful cross. Bought as a loose piece? Or maybe come with a nice campaign medal?!

Sorry, no accompanying campaign medal...

Matthias

Meanwhile I know a little bit more about this medal bar:

According to a friend of mine this bar was auctioneered by Herrmann - Historica approx. 2 years ago (researchable in the auction catalogues), with the explicit reference that MVO (or WM3) is a modern one.

Otherwise this is a beautiful medal bar and in the shown combination a real eye catcher and and an interesting research object.

Matthias

Maybe he missed out on his morphine fix.

...?hhmm...the MVO looks like replaced....all other medals are all fixed with a black thread to tha bar, only the MVO with a white one and in addition it is too far down installed contrary to the other pieces...and michael says that somewhat further above, the arms are too thick...

Matthias

Hi Stijn,

the Leopold I is bronze gilded (fantastic fire gilding). Could you tell me what "IMHO" means? Here comes the close up...