Christian J

Definitely a fakeerino

Opinions on this first model?

Seems to match the Schwerin badges I've compared it with, though I believe it to be repainted? Might just be the flash. Will obtain pics of the back tomorrow.

Just to add a little history about this actual piece. This medal was originally owned by me, but was part of a trade deal with a dealer for a army zeppelin badge a few months ago. The medal was bought originally by me from an auction several years ago ,it was the dissolving of the Colonel Dodkin collection of which this was a piece. A large amount of the Dodkin collection was,I believe, gleaned in the early 30's this piece was mounted on an old home made display board along with the other Lippe war crosses ,it was obviously made up by the collector/Colonel but was in my mind at least 50+ years old ,just the condition /smell etc. of the board told me it was fairly old. The detail itself on the medal is quite different from the usual ribboned pieces. The edge rim is much deeper than normal and the detail of crown etc is better. Everything I bought from the collection has checked out IMO original , pilot badges, some lovely old Imperial German awards etc... Just wanted to shed a little light on the history of this badge/medal.Ferg1.

Very interesting hearing of these pieces background history. There you see how much of it is lost by the change of few hands.

Did you acquire the whole display board, if so would it be possible to see it?

Just look at those devices:

Ah, I was about to post that one later today.

Giggled in the beginning, but then realised all the misdirected effort that goes into them. And the worst part, his actual monetary gain of these "things".

Hi Rick, I know that this is not quite what you are looking for but I thought it would be of interest anyway and you will probably not see another one in a very ,long time ! Strelitz cross for distinction in war but with ' FUR TAPFERKEIT' reverse inscription.

Godet made piece in solid silver. 36 made ,25 issued to royalty and high rankers only. The detail is far finer than the 'TAPFER UND TREU' examples. Horribley rare ! Ferg1.

A first one for me. Only read about it before.

As Hieronymussen writes, Ludendorff were the lowest ranking officer that were bestowed it, then the rest of them must have been some very senior officers.

The leprous mental defective is probably hacking it into scraps.

I know who this one is too. (God are those Combined Ernestine Rolls useful! )

Nothing to do with the navy.

Rick,

what about the coburg wedding, just wrong ribbon (saxon ehrenkreuz?) on the ribbronbar?

Item removed. I guess he shouldn't offered the repeatspange if the bars were to end at more than 2000euro. Still greedy.

Should've saved the pic of the backs. Darkblue backing on the medalbar and red godet(?) on the ribbonbar.

Belongs to the butcher in the madness thread. This time it was only the ek2 repeat spange that went.

Looks like the right coburg ribbon was used for the fullsized-bar. Tailor got the wrong ribbon?

Have there been any newcomers, during this past year, fit for this thread?

Lippische Rose f?r Kunst und Wissenschaft 2. Klasse mit Eichenlaub

from ultimate Lippe-Detmold ribbon bar!

Plenty nice. Possible to see the whole bar?

This went at the same time, so it might have been (one of?) his regiments.

Maybe I'm just reaching.

Graf B?low von Dennewitz ( 6. Westf?lische ) Nr. 55

Found them.

What an a--hole. They all went to different buyers.

Roman,

A very nice picture indeed.

Shame on the seller breaking it up. Did you save the pictures of the mini-chain and bars? It would be nice to atleast have them complete in this thread.

So this would be a Hausorder kl.4 zweite abteilung, with 47 awarded?

Did anyone see this. Purdy, and expensive. Seems they're on the rise. The rolls are taking effect.

Ah, so it was that you were mentioning in the "Madness" thread, somehow it never clicked at this end.

Thank you for explaining it. A shame the medalbar in that thread was butchered, as it would've been nice to see.

Gentlemen,

a very informative thread.

Is this mans connection with Sweden known?

Was wondering if the putting of an foreign (or domestic) neckaward on a ribbonbar or an medalbar, was usual and were not seen as a lack of common courtesy, as i've never seen it before.

No, that's not right. How can anyone claim so? We don't know how the complete, cased Godet medal bar would have ended, noone will ever know how it as it cannot ever be auctioned. It would have made an insane price, I'm sure.

I might have been a bit rash saying so, but I posted it in despair.

And that was the reason I later posted this little tidbit.

I'm having a hard time seeing it reaching 3750 Euro complete. But never say never, have to keep in mind the last ebay-bar that was discussed.

I'm having a hard time seeing it reaching 3750 Euro complete. But never say never, have to keep in mind the last ebay-bar that was discussed.

Seems a member got the case and the slaughtered pieces.

This guy made more by destroying history than preserve it. I'm disappointed in mankind.

Is here anyone who is willing to bid seriously on all awards to restore the bar? If so I won't bid, but I think that noone can do that and that I'll buy one of the orders. It's sad, but it happened.

I don't think anybody should, even if this particular specimen was unaware of his folishness, others do break groups for maximizing their profit. And by trying to keep it togther, we the collectors are feeding their wallets. We should see these groups as lost and definitely not increase the final price.

As one of my countrymen said it will never be authentic again.

Fakerinos.

Scott,

when you're shrinking the images, i guess you've used paint, make sure that you change the size both in horizontal and vertical way. Otherwise they're easily overskewed.