Christian J Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Has this guy done what i think he has done. http://search.ebay.de/_W0QQsassZkublie303This guy should be garroted.Even selling the pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 :Cat-Scratch: That fool! He hasn't torn up the ribbon bar into scraps yet for maximum profit!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian J Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share Posted July 27, 2008 Seems they were aquired this way?Eitherway it's madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian J Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share Posted July 27, 2008 Originally a Godet-bar. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 BARBARIAN!!! dOC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 but he has most of the ripped off orders and medals in his other auctions........ so we know the classes of the orders and hopefully this ribbon bar will get a name again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 1) EK2 19142) HH3) BH4) Hindenburg X5) RAO46) I assume this is an EH3aX ?7) ???8) Saxon War Effort Cross9) ? Hessian Philipp-- but what class ?10) SWA-Steel11) Prussian XXV12) 1897 Centenary13) Coburg 1899 Wedding14) ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian J Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share Posted July 27, 2008 (edited) Edited July 27, 2008 by RaZpuTiN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian J Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share Posted July 27, 2008 This is just unbelievable retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Ah, my mistake-- from crappy Hubble telescope scan.8) Saxon Albert Orderand 6) is yet another Naughty Man playing "Kleindekoration" on us.annnndhe is omitting an enemy award in15) that is not there.Tricky, tricky. But gnomes are persistent.Nobody exciting--Oberstleutnant aD--but identified.Marvelous things, award Rolls. :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 This is just unbelievable retarded.I am shocked. You said it, "unbelievable". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric K. Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Not that I'm defending this guy, but I have run into bars that were torn apart for some reason by the original owners, but if this guy did it he's a turd Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn David Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Hello, Whatever happened towards that bar is monstrous. However this one is not lost => iff someone is willing to obtain all parts (not speaking what it will cost ) it is possible to restore this one again. But that is a long shot and in the meantime we can only Cordial greetings, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian J Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Seems it was him anyway.His reply.no its me,want you want?i have make a mistake thats life.for you its broken hartsBoycott these vile and greedy sellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Not that I'm defending this guy, but I have run into bars that were torn apart for some reason by the original owners, but if this guy did it he's a turd EricYes Eric K. this is a possibility, but the initial damage having been done, it is being compounded further by selling the various pieces off individually. The chance of one buyer getting all of these pieces and keeping it all together is remote at best.I bought a group of awards from a well known Austrian dealer some years ago. In this case, the pieces which had been mounted on the medal bar had been removed (before the dealer got them) and most were in their original cases; but the point is that they were offered, sold and remain today as a complete ensemble. Lastly, I would like to point to a group offered by e-medals. I am referring specifically to the group of decorations awarded to Alfred von Vollard-Bockelberg which, among other things includes his PLM, Order of the W?rttemberg Crown officer?s cross with swords, Saxe-Ernestine House Order, knight's cross first class with swords.... Obviously, Barry could have broken this group up and sold it off, piece by piece, long ago; but he has forgone a quicker, and perhaps even greater, profit by keeping the lot intact, and I think that he deserves proper recognition and credit for having done so. Regards, Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 :speechless: Yes Madness but he will laugh all the way to the bank..... right now over 1400 Euro , seems that a lot of collectors just want more things never mind how they are offered This bar is ruined and will never be authentic again Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 This is a very, very sad story - I saw that, too. He did not do it for the profit as he is bloody unaware. I think he just didn't realize that he's destroying - he even destroyed his wallet, I'm pretty sure the bar would have made far more money than the remains will do. Is here anyone who is willing to bid seriously on all awards to restore the bar? If so I won't bid, but I think that noone can do that and that I'll buy one of the orders. It's sad, but it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 There is a particular brand of paranoid conspiracy kook which has long asserted that fluoride added to public water supplies here since the 1950s to counter tooth decay in fact makes people stupid.I am coming around to that conclusion myself. I wonder what the excuse is in Germany, where this particular form of Shredding Madness seems to be centered.Do they cut up clothes in pieces and sell the rags, too? Personally, I have seen this happen far too often.Christer is correct:the medal bar has already been destroyed. It cannot be fixed. Its "virginity" is GONE.What Bolsehviks, a world war and political division could not destroy in 90 years, one moron--one fool--one idiot has ruined.It CANNOT be put back together again.And I must say, I must BLAME the particular sub-variant of Stupid Collector who, again, I see centered in Germany--the "I ONLY Collect This-N-That" cretins.NOBODY BID ON ANY OF THE RIPPED APART FRAGMENTS.The ones who do-- the smug "I only collect Coburg 1899 jubilee medals" imbeciles-- can rot in (censored). I would rather die than put one Partial National Currency Unit into the hands of a retarded ghoul like this seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian J Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 (edited) Is here anyone who is willing to bid seriously on all awards to restore the bar? If so I won't bid, but I think that noone can do that and that I'll buy one of the orders. It's sad, but it happened.I don't think anybody should, even if this particular specimen was unaware of his folishness, others do break groups for maximizing their profit. And by trying to keep it togther, we the collectors are feeding their wallets. We should see these groups as lost and definitely not increase the final price. As one of my countrymen said it will never be authentic again. Edited August 1, 2008 by RaZpuTiN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I'm pretty sure the bar would have made far more money than the remains will do.oooooooohhhhhhh............. I think the remaining parts will make more money than the bar would have made check it out... rising and rising..... :banger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Gentlemen,For what it?s worth, it appears to me that the ribbon bar in post #1 indicates a Saxon Ernestine House Order with swords, while post #8 shows a 2nd class knight?s badge without swords.Can anyone offer an explanation for this apparent discrepancy?Thanks in advance,Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Yup. Naughty man is "Kleindekoration"ing an EH2bX from Meiningen during the war. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Aha! Thanks Rick :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 wooooooooooooooooooow...... some kind of science fiction ending prices :speechless: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian J Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 This guy made more by destroying history than preserve it. I'm disappointed in mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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