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      1914 EK1 with screwback marked L/12

      in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross

      Posted · Edited by hagahr

      Hi Graf,

      "... that are considered as "Original""

      Considered by whom? By the sellers and dealers, looking for a higher price?

      "genuine reproduction"

      Gosh! What a nice expression!

      A "genuine reproduction" could be made in the award period, by authorized makers. It is a not awarded piece, but "considered as Original".

      "In this particular case "Original" means made by the Maker whose mark is on the EK, not a forgery or fake made in Estonia, China or Pakistan."

      And when there is a maker mark from an Estonian, a Chinese or a Pakistani manufacturer, it is an original?

      And when a German maker produced it yesterday, with his mark on it, it is an original?

      "... for the WW1 Veterans serving in the Wehrmacht and all other recipients or for display purposes by their families request if the first ones had perished."

      Yes, they can buy a copy. Why not! But that makes not an original.

      A not original piece can be a copy, a fake or a forgery.

      Only a piece, made in the award period by authorized makers, can be an original.

      Uwe

      well well ,strong words

      AWS and Juncker where two auterised makers ,,,,

      they produced throu out the two wars .

      what ever is comming out off theyre production in those years is original maker produced medals.

      with 3 major caregory's (1) WW1 ,(2)period between the wars ,and (3) WW2 ,,,

      what you talking about is the first awarded medal .

      that is not the question here and a different ( much complexer story ).

      and if you want,,, I wood gladly go in to more deeply.

      but we need a special thread fore that indeed

      as marrauder said

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      1914 EK1 with screwback marked L/12

      in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross

      Posted · Edited by hagahr

      al do 1939 era is not my speciality

      but I do see these before

      the L12 stamp looks good to me

      the frame looks like the known AWS mould in connection with juncker

      the core type is a typical AWS core also known in connection with JUncker

      the screw and disc device looks llike the typical type known fore the 1939 /45 period

      min condition ....

      I wood say wauw ,,,,

      but sharp closeups wood be nice fore the specialist here , who wood like to see them .

      regards kay

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      my own site

      in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross

      Posted

      hello , Gents

      I am looking fore new way's off conducting my hobby,, collecting

      my own site developed wile playing around on the net very soon .

      after a wile it even became a serious thing as well .

      and it made clear to me

      that this is the best way fore me to express myself in my hobby .

      and stay out off trouble in the mean time

      I was thinking it is time to come out Moore openly,,,,, carefully

      slowly,,, getting back in to the INTERNET collectors world

      MAKE NO MISTAKE

      its no selling site

      the idea behind it is (was)

      to open an insight in to the research off an collector

      what can be scary

      as some things can potentially make a fool out off me

      but i found it important to give this insight to those who dos not have it available ,

      Moore important as looking fore a impeccable reputation as collector

      as I know ,,even my mistakes will bring others closer to deeper research .

      hope you like it

      regards kay

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      EKII 1914: Original or not? Mark?

      in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross

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      2 questions more:

      Do you have any idea about the ribbon at first sight? It is not original? I think it is suspicious cause of both edges. It is somewhat soft, shine a little, is something grayish white (in the pictures is whiter).

      And the last one. What do you have to keep this kind of kross? Is it normal the sell of these original boxes or replicas? I prefer not to keep it in a little plastic bag, of course.

      Thank you very very much!

      the ribbon is hard to judge just by the picture you have ,,,I don't want to go in to that opinion wise .

      as fore the storing and keeping

      there is no storing and displaying method in the world that has not being try'd on these crosses

      so you can let youre fantasy go nuts as much as you want .

      just keep it away from moisture , chemicals ,acid;s and sticky fingers .

      and you be save .

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      Was the WW1 Iron Cross "Cheaper" than the 1870 one ?

      in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross

      Posted · Edited by hagahr

      the reason ww1 where More ek's awarded was because the whole character off warfare was changed .

      lets start at the numbers off soldiers involved fore one .

      second the value's off how to award the cross changed also as the war cruelty involved demanded it .

      (a soldier doing its duty at 1914 was a whole different story as it was in 1870)

      but dont worry ,,in the beginning the judgment off who would get the cross was just as strictly as it was in 1870.

      and the prestige off the cross never changed

      those things are documented in period Books off the Iron cross .

      regards kay

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