TheKnight

Have this award document in my collection. Can anyone tell me if they have any value. 

K thanks Alex

another one for ye guys. Is this the real deal. And if so any idea of its value

Thanks for all your opinions. This medal is for sale along with an award certificate for a knights cross. If the certificate is genuine it is probably worth more than the medal. If the award certificate is real there is still no proof that it has anything to do with the modified ek1. My search for a genuine rk will continue. Thanks again

Thanks Gordan appreciate your comments and any other views people may have, these are the only 2 pictures I can get unfortunately.

Can anyone give me an opinion on this medal. Is it genuine ? 

Chris, have you a picture of the ribbon for this medal. Perhaps it was a field replacement cross. Where is this medal now?

Thanks christerd,

I appreciate that the odds are stacked against this medal, but in your opinion then it is not the medal of a u-boat captain. could it be a field replacement medal?

What bothers me that is that if it were a reproduction would it not be die cast. Have you ever come accross hand made reproductions of medals which were originally die cast. It seems alot of trouble to go to to make a medal which will not turn out anything like the original. Maybe someone did sit down after the war and hand craft this medal, but why. Would it not be more likely that an officer commisioned someone perhaps a captive to make a field replacement.

I understand the statistics are not in favour but do you think it is a possibility that this is a war time piece. I have interest in the medal from others but as to the value, do you think it has any

thanks for your post

the Knight

Hi all,

Back again with another question.

Since i posted pictures of the RK O&S on this web site i have been contacted several times by people looking for it.

Given all the doubt there is over its authenticity and on the flip side its rarity if it were a genuine piece, can anyone give me a fair valution for it. Love to hear some fresh opinions on the piece and thanks to all who have already contributed.

The Knight

Thanks for your comments. Hope you are right and it is a medal produced under field conditons possibly on a u boat. I must check and see what metals were used making it and see where they would have been readily available to troops in action. This version is so unlike an original that it makes me think that it was made in the field where there were no originals to copy. If it were produced as a reproduction for sale i would have thought it would have been more like an original and cast from a die rather than being hand made.

I would be grateful for any other comments on this medal or on the subject of field made medals

More photos and examples would be grate

Sir Knight,

Congrats on such a very interesting set that was most likey produced under field conditions. Shame there is not a name attached. My thoughts are this is not a so called "Replacement" but, a piece, field produced upon official announcement of an individual's success prior to the presentation of the formal award. Nice piece! These sort of decorations were obviously produced utilizing materials at hand.

Please view the following Ersatz RK in my collection, alleged to have been carved out by a fellow with alot of time on his hands, a POW.

Kind regards,

Erickn

I have bought this medal since i last posted on this topic. I couldnt resist. Some days I am glad. If it is real then im sure it must be one of a kind. An official version could cost over €20,000. I know a lot of effort went into making it by hand. I also think those making it had not got an original to copy directly from. Perhaps it was based om memory or a photograph. What ever its history im sure there is an interesting story behind it.

Has Anyone any further information about field replacement medals or crew maded medals. Any information would be appreciated. Perhap someone has pictures of such pieces being worn during the war.

Just looking through old post and came across this one.

Did you ever find the picture you were looking for.

I have a rew made RK myself and am interested in finding examples

Has anyone ever heard of a crew made knights cross. I told it is when a commander was awarded a cross and was still at sea the crew would make a 2nd class iron cross convert and im told could hand craft oak leaves etc. Maybe im been told lies. anyone think its likely.

I understand that this is not an original knights cross. It is a 2nd class iron cross converted to be a field replacement knights cross

The oak leaves and swords dont look right to me and thats why im puzzled. If it is an authentic field replacement cross, whom would have made the oaks and swords.

If it were not being sold by a fairly reliable source who are looking for alot of money i would have alot more doubts. Any opinions,

is it a medal that could have been worn during the war or is it a post war fake attempt at re creating a field replacement knights cross.

I understand that this is not an original knights cross. It is a 2nd class iron cross converted to be a field replacement knights cross

The oak leaves and swords dont look right to me and thats why im puzzled. If it is an authentic field replacement cross, whom would have made the oaks and swords.

If it were not being sold by a fairly reliable source who are looking for alot of money i would have alot more doubts. Any opinions,

is it a medal that could have been worn during the war or is it a post war fake attempt at re creating a field replacement knights cross.

Picture of Back

Anyone have any views on this medal which looks like a Knights cross with oakleaves and swords field replacement.

Im especially interested in the oakleaves and swords. Are they original or if not who would have made them.

What would this medal be worth if it is a genuine field replacement medal. All comments welcome.

Thanks guys, another copy to add to my collection. was kind of expecting it to be though.

cant believe how rare the originals are though there most be very few awarded

Thanks Mathew for your help

Just wondered how many were actually awarded.

I know goring wore one

I would of thought that it was a broad award or badge which included more than just pilots and therefore there would have been lots.

The reason i ask how you are sure it is a copy is because there is a obvious flaw in the leaves on the left. Therefore i wondered if it could be a badly cast original or is there something else that makes it stand out as a copy

If memory serves there are 6 documented originals worldwide, made by Juncker for only a few months. Originals are very rare and very expensive. The above badge is a copy.

What value would an original make

what is the obvious signs that this one is fake

here is a pic of back

Hi All,

Looking for help wih this badge.

It looks authentic although somewhat worn or damaged on one set of leaves.

Is it a copy or a bad original that was disgarded

Any views would be apreciated. I Think its an early version pre war of a pilot badge. Might be known as an air crew badge

Thanks guys i thought as much.

Cheers Glenn i thought so.

What makes you sure - just so i can awnser the question when i deliver the bad news

It's a copy I'm afraid.

Apologies its a EK1 of course