peter monahan

Agree with the general trend: you have no legal need and not a lot of moral need to reach out, though if you choose to do so, good on ya!  Offering them at fair market value is also quite acceptable.  My tuppence worth.

Peter

20 hours ago, Alexander Kunstmann said:

In the center - the medal "Vartiya" of the royal period of the sample of 1960.
On the right - the medal "For Good Service" of the Soviet period.
Left - The Fighter for Freedom Medal of the Islamic Society of Afghanistan

Well done, sir.  Thanks.

Yes, it looks like a local - Bengali - market/tourist piece with LAC Corke has improved by the addition of his name and so on - not hard to do, presumably, if he was in an RAF workshop and had a little spare time.  Nice piece!

Information worth having, Indeed.  Thanks, Aberdeen.  I did wonder, on further reflection whether the chap promoted in 1956 was a different man from the escaper, who was a Squadron Leader, but the fact that there is a faker/fantasist out there with an interest in the second fellow's area makes it a safe bet that this medal has been 'improved' at a later date, with or without intent to deceive.  

"So, no, I don't think this it is a supply or cost issue. There are other, perhaps, political reasons. They certainly are the only ex. colonial Republic that I know of that has not demonstrated its "divorce" from the UK by removing from its police and other disciplined services all vestiges of British colonialism. "

Dave

You make a convincing argument.  And, yes, my initial response may have been simplistic.  No slight on Fiji or its people intended.  I too wonder why, other than 'its traditional' they may have chosen to retain the associations with the Crown.  Cheers.

Peter

While the UK authorities, unlike India and Australia, did not issue named WWII medals, apparently Boots the Chemist would add naming for a modest charge.  I don't know what font or naming conventions they used - probably just engraved whatever the veteran asked for -  but the naming on this looks very like the WWI style of lettering. 

So, I'd say there is a reasonable chance that this is a legitimate award, privately named after issue.

I offer the information below 'without prejudice',  as the legal johnnies say.  Now idea whether any or all of the references are to the same man or not.

London Gazette, 6 DEC 19149,  28 Feb 1956 and Chaucer Auctions, Nov 2017

Sadly, many units of the CEF seem to have used the term 'Overseas' pretty promiscuously, whether or not it was part of their official nomenclature.  The 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th University Companies were sent to England in 1915 as reinforcement drafts for the Prince Patricia's Cdn Light Infantry. 

The 6th University Company was recruited in Military District 4 - Montreal and Eastern Quebec, so very probably made up of McGill University students - the English language university in Montreal.  The original serial number block assigned the 6th was: 489751-490250.  A large number of the men with those numbers ended up in the PPCLI or in the 1st and 2nd Pioneer Battalions.  Paylists exist for the 6th Uni. Coy in our archives in Ottawa but have not been digitized yet.

As you have his name and serial you can look up his service records here: https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/search.aspx

Good luck and please let us know what you find out!

Two comments.  One, given the distance to suppliers - Australia or UK, I suspect - and the cost of replacing insignia, buttons and other appointments, plus the well know parsimonious nature of Quarter Masters, it should be no surprise that the Fijian Police continue to wear a mix of Royal and non-Royal badging.

Two, on the subject of the Police medals including gallantry and UN service: Fiji had at one point, with Canada and Eire, the proud distinction of having personnel serve in every single UN sanctioned peacekeeping mission.  I don't know if this is still true but suspect that, given a military force of 2,500 regulars and 6,000 reservists and two battalions permanently tasked to peacekeeping - off island - there must be a number of police officers who have served with UN contingents over the years, either as Army reservists or as seconded police officers.

Interesting indeed!

Interesting 'affiliation'!  I wonder what the RCMP made of it?  

I believe Italy also uses the marks '18c, 20c and 22c', with many Italians being rather disdainful of anything less than 20c.

Dom

A very quick look shows two perhaps comparable groups:

WWI Trio and Navy LSGC to K.19832 A. Gilson, L. Sto[ker], HMS Cumberland $350.00

WWI 1914 Mons Star Trio & LSGC Medal to MacKenzie RFA GBP L225.00 = $290

Presumably a bit of a premium for the extra rarity of the RN group.  A site called medalsofengland.com  seems to have a fair selection of RN groups if you wanted to check there.  Perhaps a UK member could comment on that firm's prices and reliability.  

Good luck!

Peter

Ah!  That would make perfect sense.  What a shame, though.

A traditional 'black sheep'?  Perhaps even a reverse remittance man - sent off to the 'mother country' to expiate his sins and paid to stay there?

Peter

It looks, even from this photo, to be a very elegant item indeed.  Thank you for sharing, Duren, and welcome to the GMIC!

21 hours ago, paul wood said:

A large number turned up at DNW about 10-15 years ago.

Good to know.   Thanks, Paul.

The Commonwealth Air Training Plan was, of course, one of Canada's major contributions to WWII in the air, as we trained members of all the Commonwealth nations, as well as Norwegians and others, as pilots and air crew and, perhaps, air craftsmen too.  So, perhaps your man did make it to Nova Scotia, but that would not have qualified him for the CVSM if he were not Canadian or at least serving in the RCAF, I don't think..

Interesting!  Blank bronzes renamed or  totally fabricated, Paul?  I suppose anything gets faked these days, but that's a big step down from the infamous 'Light Brigade' Crimeas of the 1990s.

12 hours ago, Bayern said:

Regarding the Guardsman, the sentry carries what appears to be a Snider carbine used between 1866 and 1871 in Home Regiments and until 1901 in India .

Well spotted, Bayern!

I am assuming that the 22nd badge is genuine, BTW, based on my sketchy knowledge of modern Cdn badges and the fact that they are common and inexpensive enough that I can't see there being a market for fakes.  But I've been wrong before!  BBF is your best bet.

Glengennie

Welcome to the GMIC!

Not an expert on badges but the 22nd - 'les Vandoos' - look ok.  I assume it is missing a slider which would have been soldered to the back of the crown.

There is a British Badge Forum with a large section on Canadian as well as British badges and many badge experts too.  https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/forums/.  

Peter

Thank you very much, Lone Wolf.  A fine looking medal and, like the fine groups you've posted, clearly with someone who understands and values it.

Swagger sticks, as carried by all ranks in the British Army when 'walking out' in uniform -  off duty and 'oot on the toon' as  Cameronian might say - weer popular from the 1880s or so until WWI and many examples still exist.  "The practice ceased with the outbreak of World War II. Uniforms are no longer worn by British army personnel when off-duty and the swagger stick has accordingly become obsolete.", according to Wikipedia, but I think it was not common by then, the Great War having taken the shine off the sight of uniformed soldiers in the pubs and theatres.

Probably impossible to date any more closely than 1880-1918 or so [or just possibly from the 1920s-30s] unless there is something very distinctive about the badge on the end, or a maker's mark, either of which I presume you would have mentioned.   Your Granfer may just have picked it up because it is a sharp looking souvenir!

16 hours ago, paul wood said:

The fact he had 6 kids suggests he was too often absent from the fishing grounds.

Paul

Or enjoyed his shore leave a lot!

8 hours ago, UNR1917 said:

Soon there will be a translation into English! 

Excellent!  Thank you for sharing this.

Peter