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Try repsoting this under the British & Commonwealth forum and see if anyone there knows about the Aussie and KIwi awards.
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Indian Army rolls are available, including a reprint for, I think, 1949, 1924 and maybe 1900. I have the 1924 reprint but, not too surprisingl;y, he is not listed in it.
Or you can root around here for clues: https://www.bl.uk/reshelp/atyourdesk/servdeliv.html. Type in 'Indian Medical Service' and see what's available.
What bar is on the medal?
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The service records for British personnell, WWII can be accessed through the National Archives, Kew. Go here:https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records.
Not online, there are charges and he may have to prove that he is next of kin, as the records are not yet public - a 90 year rule, I think.
Good luck.
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Looks as if he was killed in training, not on operational service, but yes, there is always a bit of a premium for the RFC / RAF. And, yes, nice to get a unique name. I have a pair to a 'Lieut. XX Smith, RAF' and no earthly hope of figuring out who he was, as there are 12 men with his initials.
We forget too, that by 1918 the RAF had its share of clerks and box-wallahs, but your man sounds as if he was a pilot in training. Apparently RAF Montrose was the first operational base set up in the UK and planes actually flew missions over France from there. It's in southern Scotland. The Wiki entry on it is quite interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Montrose
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The marks on the blade itself are 'proof marks', indicating that it has been passed/approved by various inspectiors during manufacture and possibly later. '88' indicates a manufacture date of 1888.
The numbers which are struck through on the hilt are likely individual issue numbers, applied by the regiment or company which issued this bayonet to, presumably, two different soldiers.
One mark on the blade a 'double broad arrow' looks like a backwards 'K' next to a 'K' in your picture. This generally indicates that the item has been sold out of governmwenrt service, either to another army or for scrap steel.
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What a lovely thing! Thank you for sharing the phgotos of this elusive beast.
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Second child of Major General George Henry Vesey. Born c.1869, died 1966. She had several siblings who died in infancy but two brothers lived to be a General and a Colonel.
http://www.thepeerage.com/p3542.htm#i35412
Not much here, but from Burke's Peerage. Probably info. in the British papers with her obituary[ies] in 1966, if you have a way to search those. Hope this helps a little.
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Very classy! I can't read the unit name though: "????MANAGH YEOMANRY" Fermanagah?
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Technically called a 'fob' and, yes, very common on pocket watch chains.
I too have one on a watch I wear. They could be odd bits - mine is a trilobyte fossil in a silver setting, lodge or church group badges or any other item which struck the wearers fancy, but actually unlikely to be a military badge as such, though Old Comrades associations produced fobs and pins. The Victorians were very big on 'joining' and 'belonging' and a fob or lapel pin was a quick identifier of, for example, a fellow Mason, or something similar.
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On 2/17/2018 at 12:20, Spasm said:
I visited a specialist company and got a price from them to mould and produce the casts for me... They recommended that a piece would normally be priced at 3 to 10 times the cost for casting. For this piece, 3 times the individual cost would be £250...
Ouch! At that rate, I'm afraid I'll have to settle for admiring from afar.
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Young officer in Egypt and SA, staff wallah in WWI - hence the DSO - and a senior officer in the Home Guard for WWII. Impressive, but sadly, probably a description which matches literally dozens in not several hundred men.
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I don't recognize the regimental initial's - try the British Badeg Forum - but these bugles with badges on them are being widely faked in the east. Can't say whether this one is good or fake but most showing up lately appear to be fakes. Sorry!
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Chris
Here is a short synopsis of the service of the 66th.
In 1902 the 6th Madras Infantry, was reconstituted with Punjabi Muslims, Sikhs and Rajputs. In 1903, all Madras units had 60 added to their numbers, and the regiment's designation was changed to 66th Punjabis.
Allah Dittah was almost certainly a member of the PM double company.
In 1902 the 6th Madras Infantry, was reconstituted with Punjabi Muslims, Sikhs and Rajputs. In 1903, all Madras units had 60 added to their numbers, and the regiment's designation was changed to 66th Punjabis.
Allah Dittah was almost certainly a member of the PM double company.
During World War I the 66th Punjabis were dispatched to Mesopotamia as part of the 12th Indian Division in 1915. After taking part in the Battle of Shaiba, the regiment participated in the operations in Persian Arabistan. In October, the 66th Punjabis joined the 6th Indian Division in its advance towards Baghdad. It fought in the Battle of Ctesiphon and then retired towards Kut al Amara, where it was besieged by the Turks with the rest of the 6th Division. The Division resolutely resisted for 150 days, but after the failure of the British to relieve them, the starving garrison of Kut was forced to surrender on 29 April 1916. The 66th Punjabis became prisoners of war and suffered terrible privations during their long captivity. Out of the 538 officers and men present in the regiment on 14 March, only about a quarter returned home after the war.
The 66th Punjabis were re-formed at Jhelum on 31 December 1916. They served on the North West Frontier of India and took part in the Third Afghan War of 1919. On 5 October 1918, the regiment raised a second battalion at Sitapur, which was disbanded in 1921.
In 1922, the regiment was became the 2nd Battalion, 1st Punjab Regiment, thus severing any last ties with their Madras origins. On independence, the regiment went to the Pakistani Army. Eventual amalgamations have now produced a single 'Punjab Regiment' of 20+ battalions.
I hope this is of some help.
Peter
Here is a link to some further information: http://www.researchingww1.co.uk/66th-punjabis
The war diary may be useful. Some were very dtailed and included what the regiment was doing on a daily basis, weather, maps, and even, if you're very lucky, lists of casualties, though private soldiers are rarely mentioned ny name. I don't know if the single war diary mentioned in the link is this good, but at least you might get info. on what Dittah's company was doing.
Good luck!
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8 hours ago, oamotme said:
Gentlemen, Are the reverse letters "RMBI" - Royal Masonic Benevolent Institution? Regards, Owain
Well spotted, that man!
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David
Welcome to the GMIC. I saw this yesterday but had nothing to add, so didn't respond. I know that US servicemen serving with other nations' units were eligible for the Purple Heart in some circumstances but don't know enogu about US awards to say how likely it is that a foreigner would be awarded one. Sorry!
I hope, however, that some members will have more information. You might consider re-posting or repeating this post in the "Unted States of America" section of the forum, to engage the US collectors. There is a veteran's group in the US called the 'Military Order of the Purple Heart', with various chapters across the States. perhaps contacting them would be useful?
Good luck!
Peter
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17 hours ago, paul wood said:
Zetland lodge 1005 founded 1864 based in gloucester.
Paul
So, Masonic? No sabe 'Zetland',
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Oh, well done!
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Gung Ho! Looks good.
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Interesting. Looks as if it could well be a match.
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Agreed: soldiers, even rankers, were smart enough to buy things which made life easier, and clever NCOs to ignore 'non-issue, non-regulation' bits which weren't actually dangerous or illegal.
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Depending on how much time and interest you have, it is now possible to search a lot of the records online, as Ancestry.com has purchased the rights from the National Archives at Kew. I have a basic membership, which only gets me Canadian records in full and lists of British records, but a membership is not expensive if you plan to keep collecting and researching.
Here's some basic information from the Archives, with links to Ancestry and other resources: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-military-campaign-and-service-medals/
Good luck!
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Definitely the Spanish coat of arms - Leon & Castile. I did a quick search for Spanish 'Model 1854's and didn't find one, but I'd still be inclined to think the date is a model ID and not a manufacture date.
OTOH, what I know about Spanish swords could be written on a postage stamp with room left over.
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German participant of Waterloo 1815
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Lovely! Thanks for sharing.