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Here are medal bars with Iron Cross 2C equivilants from the various states that I've collected as WWI trios with the Hindenburg Crosses.
Anhalt Obverse
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The first one is the Edward VII Coronation 1901 and in an the initial position means that it was an older mounted bar. The second medal is the China Campaign Medal for the Opium War, the third medal is the Abassynian Campaign Medal and the fourth medal is the Territorial Decoration (Officer) that was awarded during Victoria's reign, thus the "VR". The China and Abassynian Medals should be officially named. Interesting group. I believe Peter Ustinov's father had a "mixed" medal bar of Imperial Russian, Imperial German and British Medals. I wonder if anyone has a photo of that group?
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Owain, you're a good man to make sure the family is reunited with a medal from a family. I've only had that pleasure once and you'll find it interesting a I bought the medal in the souk in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. It was a BEM disc (military) missing it's suspension and named to a New Zealander who had served in Korea in the RNZA. I had done the research on it for a short article that was published in the OMRS Journal back in the 80s and in which I published that he was one of five New Zealanders who had been awarded the BEM (military QEII) for the Korean War. At any rate, the recipient's friend read the article while working in Sabah and wrote me asking if he could get it for his best friend who had returned to New Zealand after working in Borneo. It seems the medal was in a house fire and one of the workers who had helped in clearing up the remains of the house helped himself by taking the medal and eventually he went on Haj and sold it in Jeddah where I bought it at the old airport souk back in '85. I parted with it to the man's friend and he returned it to the man and he sent me a thank you letter and was happy to get at least that medal back. He is still missing the Queen's Korea and the UN Korea. A second somewhat related story is that of my brother who wrote a Canadian dealer just asking him to keep an eye out for a WWI pair to an uncle of ours and who was a Pte. in the RHC; low and behold, about six months later, he came across the BWM, which my brother now has. Talk about needles in haystacks... I love it when the medals go back into the families (when they're truly interested in the relative/ancestor; if it's just for profit, forget it; keep it where it'll be appreciated).
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Beautiful! Thank you for sharing. Can you show the reverses and close ups please. : )
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Well, he got the EK2C... ; )
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Cheetah Squadron medal groups and other related items are not common and I see advertisements for them only a few times each year. Men who served in Korea are dying out so their once active veteran's group may no longer exist. The majority of South Africans have little sympathy or interest in the pre-1994 military history of this country, so in time the subject will be remembered only in other parts of the world - a repeat of the Rhodesia/Zimbabwe experience.
Regards
Brett
PS 2 Squadron SAAF still exists in a fragile state. It is equipped with Gripen fighter-bombers, which seldom fly because of financial, personnel, maintenance and other problems.
I can only imagine the situation there, but have seen how it went in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, which I hope never happens in S. Africa. I'm amazed at the price differences between S. African WWI and WWII items and sincerely feel that wonderful historical groups can be had for a fraction of the price of those from Britain, Canada, New Zealand and of course Australia where prices have skyrocketed. I can only hope that those who emigrated will continue to remember and appreciate S. Africa's contribution in the world wars and military history prior to '94.
All the best,
John
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Hi,
I can't think of anything that screws up a nice bar like a Deutscher Reichskriegerbund Kyffhauser medal does. I can't understand why anyone back then would tarnish their bars with it. LOL
Regards,
Sam K.
You have a point there; I don't have any bars with that on it, but again, it's history and I suppose the man was proud to be in a group with his mates with whom he went through hell.
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It's all history and so all interesting to study; I personally can't say that I would ever not buy something because of one or more medals; that's just the way they are. As for "ugly" medals, I must add that the US medal for aid is particularly ugly and that hand looks like it's going to give a slap. Why the govt. couldn't come up with something more fitting and more aesthetically pleasing, I'll never know. Saying that, it shows service and as such is part of the group.
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Do you see much in S. Africa dealing with the Cheetah Squadron? Are there any veterans organizations that recognize its contribution to the Korean War?
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C.G. Ulrich
Nachfolger
Hamburg
Gold on white cloth
stitched top and bottom
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Edmund Waibel
Juwelier
Steglitz. Rathousplatz
Gold on black cloth
stitched around edge
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A nice label on a mini bar.
Ordens Dekoration
Gravieranstalt
J.Bohous.Hannover
Steintorstn 5
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An off-centered
E. Keilig
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Dresden-A1
Liliengasse 2
Light blue on grey cloth backing strip
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G.A. Scharffenberg
Dresden A. Seestr. 1
impressed in aluminum backing
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Hans Bruggemann
Bielefeid
Gehienberg ?
Aluminum with black field and silver letters within silver frame
attached through holes on left and right
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J. Sedlatrer
Berlin W.8.
Leipzigerstr. 108
Yellow/gold on black cloth
sewn on left and right side
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Labels on both medal and ribbon bars.
Bleckmann
Celle
Abzeichen
gilt oval aluminum
attached via two holes on left and right
You see these in gilt aluminum or just aluminum
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Another
Brookmann-Westmann
Dresden A.1. Schiopstr.15
Ruf 13788
White on black cloth strip
tacked on top and bottom of
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A rather worn Stettin
Louis Kase Stettin
Schutzenstr.10
Red on black cloth strip
Stitched at four corners
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Gustav Schuft
Ordensdekorationen
Cottbus
Berlinerstr.161
gold on black cloth
Stitched on all sides
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German bits and bobs...
in Germany: Imperial: The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States
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Hamburg obverse