Great Dane

On 20/06/2019 at 08:25, Noor said:

Its just zoomed in part of the roll to read better. It says "neither in possession of 1882 or 1884 medal. Underneath you can see he had 1882 issue...

 

 

I think it says "Whether in possession..." - similar to the other header fields. That would also make more sense...

Ahh... you're right...

I checked my own miniature (yes, I get the irony of not recognizing this as a miniature) and it has no markings at all.

To add to Lars' description, I don't think this is the actual decoration but a related emblem of some sort.

The decoration is a multi-piece construction like shown here. There is normally a number on the reverse and the decoration has to be returned after the death of the recipient,

Ahh... I see... good explanation and drawing ?

That actually solves a mystry of mine where a Commander cross had a ribbon too short to go around the neck and having button holes in each end.

Can anyone explain this paragraph (for wearing more than one Commander cross as a civilian):

"Beim Civil wird nur ein Band um den Kragen gelegt; trägt man mehrere Orden, so werden diese an das oberste Band angeknöpft."

I am familiar with the military version ("aus der Knopfreihe"), but how does it look in the civilian version?
The gentleman pictured wearing Pour le Mérite and Johannitter seems to be wearing two ribbons, although it is hard to see....

An unofficial decoration for sure.

The date commemorates the day when the Germans declared a military state of emergency and took over the government. The Danish army and navy was disarmed and dissolved. The Danish navy sunk its own fleet to avoid the ships being taken over by the Germans. 
One of the locations where shots were exchanged was in Nyborg.

I think there are 2 unknown medals - one unknown on each photo. They are not the same (just like the bar itself is quite different).

Agree. A most interesting read. ?

I read the hallmark as L6 - which year would that be?

I double-checked the list for all recipients with Cross of Liberty 3rd class (including 'with swords' in case there was a typo), but they (15 in total) either received other medals, received other knight-level orders, did not receive the Order of Vasa or were deceased in 1973. And none had any relation to any medical service.

What is the last medal?
Some semi-official agriculture medal?

A most interesting bar.

Simon Olsson's list ("Belönade av Hitler - Svenska mottagare av Tyska örnens orden 1937‒1945") lists 247 of - allegedly - a total of 254 Swedish recipients of the German Order of the Eagle, but none of them match this combination - in fact not even close, unfortunately.

That being said, the combination looks to be quite unique. Provided it wasn't tampered with, not many recipients could have received the German order and the Swedish Patriotic Society medal with King Carl XVI Gustaf (1973 - onwards)... 

I agree  on the breast star being St. Anne. The neck badge looks to be that of St. Vladimir.

I hope some member with knowledge of Russian regimental badges will chime in...

Genuine, for sure. Awarded during the reign of King Christian IX (1863-1906). Gold, as was the norm before 1912 (ish).

What specifically do you want to know?

If the collar was a special gift from the officers, does that mean that this is the only collar ever made for this order?

It looks very unique, including the FM batons as a suspension.

Montenegro - Order of Danilo?

Japan - Order of the Rising Sun?

PM sent.

I have some full-sized Swedish jubilee- and commemorative medals that I planned on putting for sale on ebay this winter, because I want to refine my collection. One of them being the dark blue enamelled one mentioned above.

Which ones are you looking for in particular?

The list in Thyen's book only lists him as "Hemsley, R." (entitled to the F.R. 1870 clasp), so not much help I'm afraid...

From my area of collecting:

Recipients of the Danish Order of the Elephant who were also awarded the GC of the Danish Order of Dannebrog were required to wear the latter around the neck (on a neck ribbon).

I would assume they would also wear the Dannebrog GC Star to distinguish it from a Commander 2nd class decoration - at least after the insignias of the GC and Commander became identical.

Since the sash of the Elephant Order is worn from left shoulder to right hip and the Dannebrog from right shoulder to left hip, it also makes sense not to tempt some recipient with a lack of style sense to wear both sashes at the same time. Not many were awarded both decorations, but it only takes one to make it look ridiculous... ?

I can't tell you which is the most optimal method, but when my collection was put into 9 months storage and - after that - shipped across the pond, this is what I did:

I had a pile of acid-free tissue paper lying around, so wrapped each object in a cut piece (letter/A4 size). Placed the wrapped objects in cardboard boxes (a little bigger than shoeboxes) and finally placed some bubble-wrap on the top to keep stuff in place before closing the lid. Then taped the lid to the box to keep it closed (and to indicate if it had been tampered with).

Obviously that wouldn't stop things from moving around inside if someone shook a box violently, but for normal handling I assumed it would be fine. And even if stuff moved around inside, the objects would still be wrapped individually and not hit each other directly.

Yes, not an official medal, but awarded by the veteran's association (Life Guards), and thus the numbers awarded are not known.

Someone put it on a Swedish ribbon (oh, the horror... ? )

Here is one on the correct ribbon and with the box (it is not mine):

Wessel,

If I remember correctly, many of your medals are reproductions, so the "don't ever clean an original medal" may not apply as strict in your case?

Basically, cleaning an original medal decreases its value significantly (unless it is covered in soil/rust).

However, when cleaning yours of course you want to make sure they don't get damaged in the process...

Well, he does say "Das Original ist viel besser als die Fotos" (no reference to which original...)... ?

Well, provided the story is true... I think proper repair requires all of the blue enamel to be stripped off, thus diminishing its historical value...

The Danish Order of the Elephant. I believe the Queen has 2 versions - during a state visit from Britain a few years ago she contemplated wearing one of them, but gave up the idea due to the small enamel damage on both stars.

(Photo: Jakub Kaja on Wikimedia)