kyokashinkai

rear of badge

Please could members kindly advise me if this is a real or fake French SS volunteer arm shield.

thanks

steve

reverse

opinions on this one please !!

many thanks to you all

kyokashinkai

..thanks !! ..picture of the single sided posted on new thread

many thanks

kyokashinkai

3/Pour Le Merite (Blue Max), excellent quality single sided bronze gilt light blue enamel, reverse engraved ...real or fake ??

2/Pour Le Merite (Blue Max), superb early post war quality silver, suspension stamped W ( Wagner) ......real or fake ????

...wondered if this are legit pre 1939 pieces...

i could cope with an interwar private purchase,dont and cant justify $25000 on a wartime one ... but do not want post 1945 "ebay" type junk !!

opinions or advise please .

thanks

kyokashinkai.

1/ Pour Le Merite (Blue Max) with crown, superb early post war quality silver gilt, loop suspension stamped J.G 938 (Godet)

Just spotted this on Ebay , is it the real deal or a run of the mill fake as usual ????

cheers

Steve

EBAY 140073735544

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...p;rd=1&rd=1

i have boxed azad hind medal , would like to post but cant upload pics , if anyone could post then i would be very greatful

best wishes steve

I'd agree, not even close. ground-down 1914. Frame, width of flange, beading, width of rim all wrong, based on photos shown.

Medal has been returned !! and full refund given

thank you for everyones input

kind regards and thanks to all

Casp

Hello,

I have been looking for a pilots version for while now spotted a pilots example on Weitz site.

Please can the experts out thir confirm that its spot on as i really dont wish to waste big money on a dodgy example.

thanks

Casp

Recently purchased this cross which was described as

For sale here is a German (Prussian) Iron Cross with iron core and made in the correct three part construction.

side features the oak leaves and monogram of Friedrich Wilhelm (FW) and the date 1813. The other side is plain blackened iron.

The ring is stamped IW which I assume to be the Berlin maker ?Wagner?.

The dimensions are as follows:

Width across arms : 42.2 mm

Weight excluding ribbon : 12.0 grammes

General condition : the German silver frame is tarnished with age. There is some rusting to the core. There are several dents and knocks. Generally well worn condition.

The ribbon is a good length of 9cm when folded and appears to be old and original in feel etc.

I can not say if this is an actual 1813 piece or if it was made later as an anniversary piece. Certainly an old item.

thought i had better double cheque whils i have a return period if unhappy

thanks !!

Hello.

i would be very greatful if members could advise me on thir valued opinions on this 1813 Iron cross.

thanks

Casp

Hello.

i would be very greatful if members could advise me on thir valued opinions on this 1813 Iron cross.

thanks

Casp

...this is whats collectings all about !!!

Love it !!!

Steve

..if you check the previous thread it was sogieman who stated that these were incorrect not me. I merely pointed out that i have not seen evendence eitherway.

There is reference to the award in Warren Carrols book though, as stated by Stogieman.

i would though love to see a pic of the back of your badge though ...information is power as they say.

Like you iam no expert ,just a collector of 30 years and we all make mistakes etc and have opinions.

As with my own collection i check and check again if eventually something is proved in all probability of being incorrect then i will get rid of it. It simply boils down to what one is happy with in their collection.

kindest regards

Steve

..i wont pass comment on the banner below crown debate, as i have never seen documentation confirming they were right or wrong,be interested to hear comments on the pics you have just posted.

can we see the rear of the badge please.

I will send pics of some of my bits if someone can post..for some reason cant upload my pics onto the site.

steve

..all my badges and medals are listed under 24/7 ...

regards

Steve

if you need any pics my email is stephenjfrench@msn.com

I agree with Stogieman, theres many a fakes out there.and a large number of badges were produced post war for the post war and third reich period. The fashion and military society dictated the wearing of Imperial as well as post war awards.

Yet again you need to really handle the piece and see if any alarm bells ring.

The site

http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/

is super and offers good pictures of accepted genuine awards. As always its "buyer beware"

I presently own 3 original Austrian badges ,two from the Flayderman collection

Some of my collection is illustrated on the forum link below.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/sho...t=ebay+rarities

Hope you enjoy looking ..

regards to all

Steve

I have a non maker marked general flyers badge,together with contempory box to this maker,as far as i am aware they were outfitters for general badges etc, obviously it would require further research.

photos of my badge and its box are shown on this site.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/sho...=general+flyers

regards

Steve

Interesting debate, i would agree that the majority of the badges look incorrect ,the revets being totally wrong ,the only badge worth a second look would be the general flyers badge,but then handling it would be the key.

The boxed badges are 100% wrong,no way would zimbler sell a flight badge in another makers box. Non maker marked yes as badges were contracted out,but not like this.

regards

Steve