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    Odulf

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    1. A bit late reply to this rather old topic, but perhaps of interest to researchers.

      Many years ago I conducted a research in the archives of the Dutch General Staff, in search for information about interned British seamen during the Great War.

      One of the files I noticed contained documents about the sinking of these three ships.

      Of interest in this file were reports that many survivors were rescued from the sea by a Dutch ferry and some other Dutch vessel. When these vessels proceeded their voyage to Dutch ports they were stopped by RN torpedoboats or such luke vessels and boarded against the will of the ship's masters. All valid British seamen were taken on board of the RN ships and the Dutch vessels continued their course.

      The wounded British sailors on board were interned in The Netherlands( and they were given proper medical treatment), but The Netherlands were a neutral party in the conflict (according to the International Agreements) thus the Dutch Government protested, because the sailors were "obducted" from a neutral vessel (from neutral territory). The protest was fruitless, and the Dutch did not proceed the claims for long. The British action would technically yeopardise the neutral position of the Dutch Nation.

      Internment of British Naval personnel in The Netherlands has been my subject of research for a long time, but I've never endevoured into compiling a list of all internees and they're original units. (has anyone?).

      I wonder how many of the compliment of these three old cruisers were interned?

    2. I was wondering if anyone can help to identify these men (& their medals).

      All the pictures came together and I believe they are all the same event (2 definitely are).

      Pic 1 - when I first saw this I first thought it was Hierl without a mustache . . .

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      Looks like Generalarbeitsführer Köhler, commanding Arbeitsgau XVI - Westfalen-Nord, see the photo from my collection attached below.

      post-7824-075728900 1288981066_thumb.jpg

    3. As I am more focussed on European militaria, I am puzzled by this American. Can any one identify the period, uniform and medal, please?

      The photo is Cabinet size, rubber stamped on the reverse: Wm. Phipps - Photographer - 708 7th Street N.W. - Washington D.C.

      post-7824-026637100 1286353766_thumb.jpg

    4. As I am more focussed on European militaria, I am puzzled by this American. Can any one identify the period, uniform and medal, please?

      The photo is Cabinet size, rubber stamped on the reverse: Wm. Phipps - Photographer - 708 7th Street N.W. - Washington D.C.

    5. Thanks For the reply.

      It measures 7x4 cm and has two holes on the back that are parellel and centered to the ends. The holes are 2 cm apart. Tough to tell with these..... I'll have to now buy an early collar tab Skull to see if it fits OHHH-NO hahhahaha

      These Panzer-Pioneer collar tabs are quite scarce on the market, so you have a good catch, in particular when it is complete!

      If you like, I can keep an eye open for a genuine Panzer skull here on a German militaria fair, I expect that the price won't put you off (between 10 and 20 Euros).

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