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Paul thanks again, does that mean that you have seen these medals with illegible marks as well? Is this a bad indication?

Best regards,

Radmilo

Thank you very much Paul! It is 24mm, and the marks on the suspension ring are unfortunately unreadable (at least I can't read them).

Thanks Rogi, I'm glad that you like it

Greetings gentlemen,

I have recently acquired this Red Cross medal, thoughts and comments on it are more than welcome (especially when it comes to it's originality).

Thanks in advance!

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You are most welcome Ionionescu.

So there is no doubt then. It is logical to assume that they were awarding 5th type some time after the assassination (like you mentioned there must have been some amount of them left) but it really surprises me that they were still awarding them five years later.

Kind regards,

Radmilo

Fran Sorlini, no inscription on the outer side of the lid.

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Here are couple of pictures of the 4th class, 2nd variant of 5th type with simple cardboard cases. The cases are I believe very rare.

Both of these medals were recently sold on ebay.

Huguenin.

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Thank you very much Paul! Off course, I will keep in mind your example, but I still hope someone will post a case of the 4th class (silver, no crown), I don't know what type it is, in the photo were my grandfather wears the medal a face can be seen what resembles King Alexander I of Yugoslavia, so I guess its the 6th type, 4th class?

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I agree, it really does look like King Aleksandar is on front side. Medals with Aleksandar are 5th type, they were awarded between 1927 and 1934. After the assassination 4th type (1921-1927) was back in use, so this so-called 6th type (1934-1941) is basically the same as 4th.

4th type had 2 variants, first one was used between 1927 and 1929, and the second between 1929 and 1934. The difference is inscription on front side, on first "Aleksandar I King of Serbs, Croats and Slovenians" (like on the medal that you have used as an example) and on second "Aleksandar I King of Yugoslavia" (Country was renamed in 1929 so this was logical consequence).

Are you sure that this medal was awarded to your grandfather somewhere between '38 and '39? I can't say for sure was this possible, but it sounds strange that the King Aleksandar type was awarded 4 or 5 years after the assassination.

Greetings,

You can find some information here: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/25013-serbia-identification-of-badge/

Yes it is still there but I have brought it. It had a byer so I needed to offer more for it.

Thanks for answer, I was concerned that someone is maybe trying to trick you. All in all a great catch! My congrats!

Thank you both for kind words! And thank you Igor for posting your order with document in this topic!
We can see that #34854 was awarded on 18. of February 1946, and #74634 on 8. of March 1948. so it would be logical that #54927 was awarded somewhere between those two dates and #20652 before February '46. When it comes to ZIN and unnumbered IKOM I am completely clueless. I forgot to mention that there are two theories about gilded unnumbered IKOMs, first that that type was issued on recipient's request as a duplicate and second that it was given to senior officers.

Document for 3rd class medal (but 3rd type 1903-1921) from 1920 got sold on ebay 5 or 6 months ago for almost 200$...

That would be all from me for now, if you have interesting pieces, especially with different types of boxes and/or documents I would be very grateful if you could post them here.

Kind regards,

Radmilo

One more ZIN #144981 with "interesting" ribbon.

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ZIN #131075

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Gilded unnumbered IKOM.

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Unnumbered IKOM.

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Slightly different IKOM #54927.

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Document, issued February 1946.

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One more numbered IKOM - 34854. This time a complete set, with older type of box with a Cyrillic inscription (ОРДЕН ЗА ХРАБРОСТ) and a document.

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Yugoslav production. numbered IKOM, relatively small number - 20652.

I've never seen their order with number lower than 10k. There are some speculations that IKOM started from 10k, but as far as I know there are no certain information on this matter.

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Couple of close ups.

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Greetings gentlemen,

I would like to present you different types of Bravery order from my collection.

First (and my personal favorite) Soviet production, Monetny Dvor, obvious signs of wear but a very nice number - 229.

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I apologize for going a little bit off topic, but this could be interesting to some members.

1950:

Now that you have mentioned that matter there were couple of videos of 1975 and 1985 Victory day parades online, I think that they can still be found on youtube. It is interesting to see all of the participants and a lot observers wearing all of their decorations.

Greetings Milos,

Thanks for sharing those pics with us. Can I ask where did you get that medal? Because I saw it in Serbia, I think that the ad for it is still active, and the price is a bit lower.