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1) Medal for Military Merits
2) 30 Years of YPA Medal
3) 30 Years of Victory over Fascism Medal
4) 40 Years of YPA Medal1 -
Again three ribbons, this time differently aligned.
1) Order of Brotherhood and Unity 2nd Class
2) Order for Bravery
3) Order of the Republic 3rd Class1 -
A cute one, got it together with decorations.
1) Order for Bravery
2) Order of Merits for the People 3rd Class
3) Medal for Bravery1 -
It all started with this one.
1) Order of Merits for the People 3rd Class
2) Order of the People's Army 3rd Class
3) Order for Military Merits 3rd Class
4) Medal for Military Merits
5) 10 Years of YA Medal
6) 20 Years of YPA Medal
7) 30 Years of YPA Medal
8) 30 Years of Victory over Fascism Medal
9) 40 Years of YPA Medal1 -
23 hours ago, new world said:
They suggest someone with money buys this award and gives it to museum in Serbia. Is there such set in any museum? Serbian or other country?
To my knowledge not a single museum has Miloš with brilliants in its collection.
I believe this is the only known example, before seeing it on emedals Instagram page I didn't even know it existed.0 -
Interesting idea, I'll post a few from my humble collection tomorrow.
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Thanks for clarification, apologies for going off-topic but is the fate of Milan's decorations known?
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So how did they come up with 255 recipients? Perhaps a typo, two fives instead of two twos, 255 - 225.
One more thing, I think I read somewhere that king Milan was buried with his star of the Miloš Order.0 -
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They had one more interesting piece, most probably Order of the War Banner prototype
Starting price: 5.000 EUR
Price realized: 6.000 EUR
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I do not claim that Shah of Persia was one of the recipients (especially not this set) but in my (Croatian language) copy of the book the above mentioned authors wrote the following: "Records about the awards given to foreign citizens are not preserved but their number had to be substantial. For example, Shah of Persia is being mentioned as one of the recipients of the highest class." - original: "Podaci o dodjelama Ordena Miloša Velikog strancima nisu sačuvani, no njihov je broj morao biti znatan. Primjerice, kao jedan od nositelja najvišeg stupnja pominje se perzijski šah." My opinion is that they think Shah received Miloš and they use that claim to support their theory about the "substantial number of foreign recipients". Perhaps they mention Shah because Mila Piletić wrote about him being one of the recipients in her book.
The following sentence is also interesting: "If we take all this into consideration, it is quite certain that the number of made decorations exceeds the number of 255 orders, often speculated about in collecting circles." - original: "Ako sve ovo uzmemo u obzir, sasvim je sigurno da broj izrađenih odlikovanja premašuje broj od 255 ordena, kojim se često spekulira u sakupljačkim krugovima."0 -
Ko radi taj i greši
Here's a photo of prototype 1 of the 2nd class from H.D. Rauch's "Medal Auction 2014". It was wrongly attributed as the prototype of the War Banner Order (Orden der Kriegsflagge (D) Erste Probe)
Starting price: 3.000 EUR, unsold.
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Mila Piletić and Car&Muhić mention Shah of Persia among recipients.
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Good eye, I didn't pay attention to that detail.
Above mentioned Bertrand's order awarded to Korošec in 1919 is placed in box with two locks.
On the page 295 of the same book we can see Huguenin's first class order in very similar box with one lock.
I might be wrong but the first class set from live auctions looks more like Bertrand's product, at least to me.
I've been going through photos of GC Huguenin boxes and all of them I came across in the last 15 minutes had one lock.0 -
It could be authentic but then again practice of wearing "kleine decoration" didn't exist within Kingdom of Serbia/SCS/Yugoslavia, at least for domestic decorations, and rules and regulations don't mention it.
There's one more important aspect, decorations were worn that way in Austria-Hungary, a former enemy state.0 -
I don't know what's the story behind those cockades but I doubt there's some connection. They had Aleksandar Karađorđević's monogram and they were made by different producers or at least packed in their boxes. There was one more strange detail, both of them had Serbian color pattern and AI monogram which was officially introduced in January 1922.
Unfortunately Franz Joseph's Miloš is not exhibited in the Museum of Military History in Vienna next to his other decorations, Takovo among them. Is it's fate perhaps known?
How could we exclude queen Natalija based on the sash alone?0 -
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That's prototype (2) of the 2nd class order, to my understanding there were three prototypes of the People's Army Order.
First class prototype (2) is pretty much the same but it has a laurel wreath around the central ring.0 -
Knowing that I'd say it's actually more likely it didn't belong to king Aleksandar Obrenović, perhaps a foreign recipient?
Provenance of a piece is always important, especially when we're dealing with something almost no one in the world knew existed. I really wonder to whom it might have been awarded and how did it end up on emedals today.0 -
I forgot to mention, photos were found on German ebay, LINK.
It got sold in May, price was 893 EUR.0 -
I think I saw these photos before, Cetinje?
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Comparison with miniature from ebay, obvious similarity...
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Socialist Yugoslavia Ribbon Bars
in Southern European & Balkan States
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1) Medal for Bravery
2) Medal of Merits for the People
3) Medal for Military Merits
4) 10 Years of YA Medal
5) 20 Years of YPA Medal