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    1. On 9/7/2012 at 12:34, jpnorth said:

      This is a very interesting subject. Can anybody indicate which of the infantry regiments had royal patrons, ie which regiments would have a cypher on the shoulderboard rather than a regimental number? 

      I know it's been almost 5 years since you asked the question but better late than never. 
      According to the regulations from 1939 the following infantry regiments wore monograms:

      -1st Infantry Regiment "Miloš the Great"
      -2nd Infantry Regiment "Prince Mihailo"
      -5th Infantry Regiment "King Milan"
      -6th Infantry Regiment "King Aleksandar" 
      -7th Infantry Regiment "King Petar I"
      -8th Infantry Regiment "Prince Aleksandar"
      -11th Infantry Regiment "Karađorđe"
      -14th Infantry Regiment "King Petar II"
      -16th Infantry Regiment "Emperor Nicholas II"
      -25th Infantry Regiment "King Ferdinand of Romania" 
      -38th Infantry Regiment "Njegoš"
      -54th Infantry Regiment "King Carol II of Romania"

    2. We can see Karađorđe Star with Swords in the catalog, it's enameled (!) soldiers' order (clearly visible inscription ЗА ХРАБРОСТ - For Bravery). That reminded me of couple of decorations we discussed earler. Photos of this examples were found on emedals, "unmarked, of unusual manufacture (probably French)."
      Back side is being represented as front in the catalog and it looks like they switched the central medallions...
      Order from emedals is "for bravery" but doesn't have swords, looks like there was a huge mix up in the workshop that made these...

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    3. Thank you very much, those catalogs might help us find the missing piece of the puzzle! 

      Let's start for the beginning, WW1 Commemorative Medal, Rob showed us one example from his collection with the following description: "It has been tentatively attributed to the French manufacturer, located in Paris, M. Delande although this has yet to be confirmed." Here's a comparison.

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      Photo found here.

    4. My apologies, I completely forgot to post that photo of general Franasović. It's unusual to see he wore such a "short" medal bar, he must have had more decorations. Anyway photo was made in 1896, I think his military carrier ended the following year when he was retired for the second time. It's interesting to mention that he was the Chancellor of the Royal Orders from 1903 until 1905.
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    5. I forgot to mention this yesterday, but once I saw Red Cross on the bar I thought that's it, you are probably right about that one. We can often see officers wearing Red Cross Order in front of all medals, and not only officers, even Milan and Aleksandar Obrenović sometimes did the same.

      Anyway, really amazing medal bar, something we don't see very often. Too bad that there are not that many photos of officers from that era available online, otherwise we might be able to determine to whom it belonged.

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