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Amazing piece, thanks for photos! I have never seen anything like that before.
Two details caught my attention, pin is put on the front side of the medal and one of the central medallions is rotated.
Regardless of that a great find, my congrats!0 -
The watch belonged to Yugoslav Air Force Pilot, unfortunately it doesn't work. It seems that Breitling delivered watches with some kind of defect as most of them I've seen so far, and I've seen at least a dozen, don't work. I found information that some of them stopped working after first battery replacement. Anyway they were produced between 1980 and 1985 and have ESA Y2 900.231 movement, model is also known as Pluton. You can see pilots' wings and RV i PVO (Air Force and Anti-Air Defence) inscription on the case back.
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Medal for Participation in Multinational Operations - General and Logistical Duties ISAF 2009 (Војна спомен-медаља за учешће у мултинационалним операцијама на општим и логистичким дужностима)
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Medal for Contribution to the Defense System of the Republic of Serbia (Војна спомен-медаља за допринос систему одбране Републике Србије)
Source: ebay
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Order of Merits in Defense and Security 2nd class (Орден заслуга за одбрану и безбедност).
Finally a decent photo, awarded on the occasion of the Day of the Serbian Armed Forces (April 23).
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You're welcome, that was the first time I found a decent photo of that ribbon.
Then couple of days later I saw an ad for this.
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I was very amazed the first time I saw it, surprises never seem to end with Serbian phaleristics
I forgot to post the link to auction in case someone is interested: http://www.barper.com/hr/NUMIZMATIKA-MILITARIJA-XLII/Militaria/Srbija-Zlatna-medalja-Au-22-19-g-UNIKAT-Medalja-miropomazanja-kralja-Aleksandra-I-u-samostanu-Zica-1889-godine-/42/550/34091/0 -
On 11/3/2013 at 20:59, new world said:
Yes, I am aware of missing device. But I decided to keep it the way it is, thinking that the General lost the device while wearing the bar. It adds some character to it.
I am not sure how it's supposed to look like.
Couple of days ago I stumbled upon these photos, here we can see exactly how the ribbon bar device looks like.
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Unlike usual medals this one has crown and is made out of gold (22,19 g).
Medal is offered by Barac & Pervan, start price is 12.000€.
I believe I saw the same medal once before and back then it didn't have suspension ring and ribbon.
Anyway it could very well be unique, I have never saw another one like that nor did I find any information about it in the literature.
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Medal for Participation in Combat Operations on the Territory of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Војна спомен-медаља за учешће у борбеним дејствима на територији Савезне Републике Југославије).
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10 hours ago, obi007 said:
Not that long ago there was also one 4th class order on ebay: Kingdom of Serbia Order of Milos The Great 4th Class 1898-1903. Very Rare.
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On 4/12/2016 at 18:02, paul wood said:
Radmilo,
You'd better E-mail them, I had that piece I would definitely be in touch with the seller of the crown.
Paul
That's a nice idea, unfortunately knowing our museums I don't think they'd be interested, I really doubt they have a budget for expenses like that...
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Thanks for the link. Military Museum has a 3rd class like that, it would be nice to see the crown on top of their order.
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Order is made by Bertrand, it's definitely lower class (IV or V). Badge on III class and higher looks different. The detail that caught my attention are the swords, I don't remember seeing something like that before. They seem to be longer than usual and also looks like their back side is "flat".
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I'm pleased to say that the author gave me permission to publish the list of king Milan's decorations from his book.
All the credit for compiling the list goes to Mr. Acović to whom I am grateful.-AUSTRIA-HUNGARY-
-Order of Franz Joseph, Grand Cross (1869)
-Order of Leopold, Grand Cross
-Order of St. Stephen, Grand Cross (1880)-BAVARIA-
-Order of St. Hubert (1884)-BELGIUM-
-Order of Leopold, Grand Cordon (1881)-BRAUNSCHWEIG-
-Order of Henry the Lion-BULGARIA-
-Order of Bravery, I grade (1882)
-Order of Saint Alexander, Grand Cross (1882)-DENMARK-
-Order of the Elephant (1882)-FRANCE-
-Legion of Honour, Grand Cross (1873)
His son's Legion of Honor was stolen by the Germans during occupation. Today it is kept in National Museum in Prague thanks to Václav Měřička.-GREECE-
-Order of the Redeemer, Grand Cross (1880)-HAWAII-
-Order of Kalākaua, Grand Cross (1882)
Hawaiian king awarded Milan when they met in Vienna. On that occasionKing Kalākaua received the Order of the Cross of Takovo.-HESSE-
-Ludwig Order, Grand Cross (1882)-ITALY-
-Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus, Grand Cross-ORTHODOX PATRIARCHATE OF JERUSALEM-
-Order of the Holy Sepulchre
According to king's wishes he was buried with this order in Krušedol monastery.-MECKLENBURG-SCHWERIN-
-Order of the Wendish Crown, Grand Cross (1882)-MONACO-
-Order of Saint-Charles, Grand Cross (1883)-MONTENEGRO-
-Order of Danilo I, Grand Cross (1869)-NETHERLANDS-
-Order of the Netherlands Lion, Grand Cross (1882)-OLDENBURG-
-House and Merit Order of Peter Frederick Louis (1882)-PERSIA-
-Order of the Lion and the Sun (1878)-PORTUGAL-
-Combined Order of Christ and St. Benedict of Aviz (1882)-ROMANIA-
-Order of the Star of Romania, Grand Cross (1878)
-Military Virtue Medal
-Defenders of Independence Medal 1877-78
-Crossing of the Danube Cross 1877-RUSSIA-
-Order of St. George 3rd class (1878)
-Order of St. Andrew (1881)
Which means he automatically received:
-Order St. Alexander Nevsky
-Order of the White Eagle
-Order of St. Anna 1st class and
-Order of St. Stanislaus 1st class-SAXE-MEININGEN-
-Saxe-Ernestine House Order, Grand Cross (1882)-SAXE-WEIMAR-EISENACH-
-Order of the White Falcon, Grand Cross (1882)-SAXONY-
-Order of the Rue Crown (1882)
-SPAIN-
-Order of Charles III, Grand Cross (1882)-TURKEY-
-Order of Osmanieh with Brilliants (1874)-SWEDEN-NORWAY-
-Order of the Seraphim (1882)
-WÜRTTEMBERG-
-Order of the Crown, Grand Cross for Sovereigns (1882)0 -
"Slava i čast" is a huge source of very valuable information which can't be found anywhere else.
It deals with Phaleristics in general, Serbian decorations until the present day including awards of the Serbian Orthodox Church. Apart from that it also covers Principality and Kingdom of Montenegro and the former Yugoslav republics. Complete lists of decorations of king Nikola I, king Milan, Aleksandar Karađorđević, Tito and patriarch German are also published. On top of that decorations of many other famous Serbs and foreign recipients of Serbian orders. Rules and regulations, solutions that weren't adopted and huge amount of photos and illustrations...
I strongly recommend it, it's definitely worth having.0 -
Complete list of King Milan's decorations can be found in Dragomir Acović's book "Slava i čast, odlikovanja među Srbima - Srbi među odlikovanjima" (in English "Glory and honor, decorations among Serbs - Serbs among Decorations").
http://www.slglasnik.com/библиотека-саборник/слава-и-част
First edition, 2013
24 x 28 cm
720 pages
Hardcover
Cyrillic alphabet
ISBN 978-86-519-1750-2
Price is 5500 RSD or somewhere around 45 EUR0 -
Medal for Exceptional Achievements in Military Service (NCO - white stripe).
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Finally some nicer photos of Order of the Republic.
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That idea did cross my mind, I thought he might have received the order as a part of some delegation. But then again I checked the list for other Serbian recipients and no one else was awarded at that time. Yesterday I sent a message through contact page on Swedish Royal Court website. I received the following answer: "The Serbian Lieutenant Velislav Milovanovic was awarded the Knights badge of the Royal Order of Vasa, 1 class, in 1888. Regrettably we don´t have any information about the background for decorating him."
Unfortunately it seems that this will remain a mystery.
Anyway thank you for all your help.
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Thank you very much for the prompt reply, I really appreciate your willingness to help.
I found my ancestor's name in the online list you were so kind to share with me, he was awarded even earlier than I thought.
I wonder for what reason was one lieutenant 1st class from the Kingdom of Serbia awarded with the Order of Wasa... Especially considering that just a few Serbs had the honor to receive a Swedish order.If you ever need some help regarding Serbian or Yugoslav militaria, please, don’t hesitate to let me know.
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Greetings,
I've recently discovered that one of my ancestors was awarded with the Swedish Royal Order of Vasa. This happened in the late XIX century, somewhere between 1894 and 1899 to be more precise. At that time he was judicial officer (captain 1st class or major) in the Army of Kingdom of Serbia.
I know next to nothing about Swedish orders so I'd be very grateful if someone could help me regarding the following questions. Do complete lists of recipients exist and are they available to the public? Is it possible to do any kind of research based on the name of the recipient and other information I posted above? I presume lists of recipients were published in official gazette, do they exist in digital form and can I access them online?
One more thing, is it possible to say which grade would he receive and could someone show me an example of a late XIX century Order of Vasa? What should I look for in case I try to find a replacement order?
Regards
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I agree with you, Bulgaria is of course Balkan state but it can also be regarded as part of Eastern Europe so it could go either way. To me personally it makes more sense to put it here.
Regardless of geography there's more chance you'll get answers in Central & Eastern European States section.
Best regards
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Yugoslav Crown, Prototype? + Krasnov's Drawings
in Southern European & Balkan States
Posted · Edited by paja
Unusual Order of the Yugoslav Crown offered by Dorotheum. Prototype, fantasy or something else?
I'm pretty sure it's made by Huguenin and the crown looks exactly the same as on Order of the Star of Karađorđe of that producer.
I will later upload Nikolay Krasnov's (Николай Петрович Краснов) drawings kept at National Library of Serbia.