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    paja

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    1. I think I know what's the story behind strange description.

      I was just checking to see what was the price one more War Banner achieved on that famous HD Rauch auction couple of years ago.

      When I finally found it, translated the text from German to English and noticed that the translation of the description on HDRauch is the same as the description on ebay.

      Check it out: http://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=304&category=4558&lot=240251

      HDR

      One of the highest military decorations in communist Yugoslavia. Order of the Yugoslav 
      Flag with Silver Star was founded on January 1, 1952, awarded to senior officers who showed outstanding bravery, self-sacrifice and Commanding abilities. In practice, 
      this order was awarded for high military commanders during the war, at least the 

      commanded a division and have remained after the war in the Yugoslav Army. There are two models of this order, the first model is seen more as a prototype. The second model is made ​​of gold, silver, diamonds and rubies, and has no hallmark, who later models, IKOM 'hallmark. Awards to 31 December 1985:. 205 piece (D) Order ratne zastave . . 2 Model, 2.Type (without hallmarking), breast star, gold, worked hollow, silver, partly. Enamelled, "a jour" busy with numerous diamonds and rubies, to silver needle, in the original, slightly damaged, red presentation case with gold-colored label. Order: I- stones not verified. RRbestowal: II

       

      EBAY

      "Order ratne zastave",2. Model, 2.Type (without hallmarking), breast star, gold, worked hollow, silver, partly. Emailliert, "a jour"  with numerous diamonds and rubies on silver needle, in the original, red presentation case with document.

      Stones not checked.

      One of the highest military medal in communist Yugoslavia. Order of the Yugoslav
      Flag with Silver Star was founded on 1 January 1952, awarded to senior officers who showed outstanding bravery, self-sacrifice and Commanding abilities. In practice
      this Order for High military commander was given, at least during the war
      a division commanded and have remained after the war in the Yugoslav army.

       

    2. I hope you won the lottery since you wrote the last time :D

      The order looks OK to me, really I can't see anything wrong with it.

      As for the price, last War Banner I saw on ebay (2013) was sold for about the same amount. Unfortunately I don't remember if the stones were genuine but I doubt it. Only the order was on sale, so no box and no document.

      I think that it's not likely that the stones on the one from ebay are real.

      There are definitely hallmarks on the back side. 

      I think that everything's OK with the document and that it was just "photoshopped". If the seller left the year visible we could probably check who was the recipient.

      About the silver needle, that also looks good to me, I saw same thing on many other examples. Actually on all orders I have images of needle looks the same.

    3. First the facts:

      -Photo should be from 1890

      -Recipient is I believe judicial captain 1st class born in 1860

      -First decoration is obviously Order of the Cross of Takovo 5th class

      -Medal in question is on suspension ring and has a multi color ribbon 

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      Considering that this person was born in 1860 chances that it could be something from the Wars of 1876-78 are in my opinion slim, especially because the medal doesn't seem to be 1876-77-78 Commemorative War Medal.

      It obviously isn't Medal for Military Virtues (1883).

      Absence of 1885-86 Commemorative War Cross suggests it can't be 1885-86 Bravery Medal (apart from that golden is on completely red ribbon, and the silver is smaller than one on the photo) but could it be Medal for Zealous Service in War of 1885-86? Size is about right and its ribbon is red with 4 blue stripes... I don't know could an officer receive it without being awarded with the Commemorative War Cross, even the judicial one.

      I am pretty sure it can't be Royal Household Medal.

      So I am running out of ideas, does anyone know what that medal might be? All comments are more than welcome.

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