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      Recipients of Order of Takovo a.o.

      in Southern European & Balkan States

      Posted · Edited by paja

      Number of foreigners awarded with the Order of the Cross of Takovo is not that small. I believe that first foreign recipients were Russian volunteers during War for Liberation and Independence 1876-77-78. General Mikhail Chernyayev was the first one who received first class cross from 1876 when it was organized as a two class order. Photo of the general the wearing the order from 1877 (1876 type replaced).

      Unfortunately I can't think of any Belgian recipients of Serbian decorations from pre-WW1 period. But for example Albert I was one of the rare recipients of the Order of the Star of Karađorđe with Swords 1st class.

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      Socialist Yugoslavia Fakes!

      in Southern European & Balkan States

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      Order of National Liberation 3rd type miniature.

      http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_11_2014/post-7937-0-62216000-1415812350.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_11_2014/post-7937-0-12024700-1415812353.jpg

      By the way, is it me or is the number of full-size orders on the market disproportional to the number of awarded pieces (only 262). I've seen over a dozen in the last year, year and a half, and that's only on ebay. Four of them are available as we speak. I can't see anything obviously wrong with them but still... Someone found a stash or what?

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      Unusual Order of the Cross of Takovo

      in Southern European & Balkan States

      Posted · Edited by paja

      Considering the condition it was definitely overpriced. I'm surprised no one picked up on the three large holes. I would think that these were once rivets but 3 is quite the unusual number for rivets (usually 4 or 2) and the holes are relatively asymmetrical.

      I really didn't pay much attention to that detail but now that you have mentioned it, it really is unusual to see three holes.

      Bertrand's stars like the one showed in post #6 had two holes for rivets in upper and lower part.

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      Unusual Order of the Cross of Takovo

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      Posted · Edited by paja

      Radmilo,

      Sorry for mixing up my Milosh's, been off the alcohol a few weeks thus my brain is addled. I like your replacement theory, it has to be something like this given the numbers, there are too many for them to be copies. Are there similar oddities of Sava's and White Eagles?

      Paul

      I'll take this question, if you don't mind Radmilo and Paul :)

      There are definatley different variations and unknown producers of St. Savas and White Eagles and Takovos, for example, the Golden St. Sava,

      http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/64057-golden-st-sava/

      and from this group:

      http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/64083-group-gouverneur-general-hubert-auguste-garbit/

      A lot of French Dignitaries were awarded with orders and a lot of these pieces were designed as custom pieces or after market purchases. I believe that the

      recipients received the docs and sometimes the medal did not reach them in time or was not issued, so recipients themselves could purchase another variant from

      private Jewellers.

      I don't mind at all.

      There are some unusual variations of both St. Sava and White Eagle orders (and of other orders as well), but in my opinion their number is much smaller compared to Takovo. Photos of some unusual White Eagles can be found in the following topics:

      http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/58590-kingdom-of-serbia-order-of-the-white-eagle-unknown-producer/

      First one is I believe early Bertrand but the second one is a bit suspicious.

      http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/58460-serbia-order-of-st-sava-commander-1st-type-m/

      Two unusual White Eagles with swords.

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      Unusual Order of the Cross of Takovo

      in Southern European & Balkan States

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      Just one last comment, there seems to be glue marks in the bottom of the Cross and in one of the corners. They can be seen better in other shots of this order, so I'll ask Paja to post them later :)

      Could be that it was repaired in its lifetime. Those missing corners don't do this piece justice, if it could only tell stories I wonder what it would say.

      Excellent examples Serbman, very interesting pieces :)

      I should have posted link to auction in the first place, anyway here it is: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SERBIA-ORDER-OF-THE-CROSS-OF-TAKOVO-1882-1903-SILVER-amp-ENAMEL-BREAST-STAR-MEDAL-/381016927760?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58b660ee10&nma=true&si=Th9xgFeaM3oWcgcpiueM%252BDVU7QU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

      Price was rather high if you ask me...

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      Socialist Yugoslavia Fakes!

      in Southern European & Balkan States

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      Gilded pilot's badge.

      http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_11_2014/post-7937-0-58299900-1415577345.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_11_2014/post-7937-0-86459200-1415577354.jpg

      http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_11_2014/post-7937-0-21486700-1415577360.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_11_2014/post-7937-0-14414800-1415577367.jpg

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