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Mr. Acović published list of recipients in his book "Glory and Honor - Decorations among Serbs, Serbs among Decorations" (original title "Слава и част, одликовања међу Србима - Срби међу одликовањима"). After comparing it with yours I noticed they do not match completely. Both lists consist of 121 names plus one organization (People's Youth of Yugoslavia) and one city (Skoplje) but each contains 4 different names.
Your list doesn't include:
-Božićević, Ivan (1979)
-Mićunović, Veljko (1981)
-Oman, Franc (1986)
-Crvenkoski Krste (1969)
Mr. Acović's list doesn't include:
-Ceaușescu, Nicolae (1978)
-Jovanović, Božin (????)
-Sirotanović, Alija (????)
-Šukrija, Ali (1985)Franc Oman, Nicolae Ceaușescu and Ali Šukrija are definitely recipients, I'll see if I can dig out something else in the Official Gazette.
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16 hours ago, Bayern said:
Paja : from left to right : A Romanian pellise , a Swiss officer , another swiss , a French ,a Bulgarian , a Japanese ,a Chilean , a Italian staff officer , a German ,and the Serbian
Thanks for your help. I don't know from which country is the last officer on the right but he can't be from Serbia.
In Serbia braided shoulder boards were worn by generals and generals' "šajkača" cap was different. You can see how it looked like in that period on the right (WW1 photo of general Bojović).
Also compare that officer with the Serbian representative from the first photo it's not the same person.0 -
That would have to be a joint endeavor
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17 hours ago, Trooper_D said:
These are truly wonderful photos, Paja. Thanks for posting them.
This is a subject of great interest to me and an area I have collected in. However, I have had a look at my postcards of the manoeuvres and I have nothing after 1908, sadly (a gap I need to fill).
As a general point, military attachés of the period deserve more study on this board, I think, as they usually present a dazzling array of different uniforms in such a 'confined space', if you know what I mean.
They also tended to be interesting characters in their own right. None more so than the US attaché, Bentley-Mott, who seems to have had the job (probably at his own expense, I suspect) for most of the Century to date. I may start a separate thread on him, when I have time.
My pleasure.
I've been thinking about opening a separate, general, topic about foreign military representatives at French Maneuvers. Going through photos and postcards from various years I noticed some familiar faces. For example Serbian representative in 1904 was colonel Petar Bojović, future vojvoda. Apart from him I recognized Mihailo Živković and Jovan Dragašević, both future generals.
I presume a lot of representatives from other countries rose up to high ranks, unfortunately I'm not that familiar with foreign officers.
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Same museum different exhibition, photos found here.
Ottoman Order of Osmanieh and Order of the Medjidie
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Two more photos from the same exhibition found here.
Ottoman Order of Osmanieh and Order of the MedjidieSame display case as in the previous reply, the rest of the decorations:
Order of the Prussian Crown
Albert Order
Order of the Holy Sepulchre
Order of St. Anna
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St. Gregory Knight Grand Cross recipient, Serbian Orthodox priest Jovan Sundečić (Јован Сундечић).
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Not in Serbia but still interesting Museum of Perast, collection of decorations.
Austrian Franz Joseph Order and commemorative medals, Takovo 2nd and 4th class, St. Sava and Order of St. Gregory the Great.
Photos found here.0 -
Don't mention it, I enjoy researching the Official Gazette
Posts are editable for a certain amount of time, I'm not sure for how long but after that the edit button disappears.0 -
As BalkanCollector already wrote fakes do exist, some of them are not very well made and can be spotted right away.
When it comes to orders such as the one you presented above opinions are divided. There are far too many 2nd and 3rd class Partisan Stars on the market, just think about the number of awarded pieces. Basically there are two theories, some believe there's something wrong and that these pieces are probably fakes, others presume someone found a huge stash in some storage and started selling them. The biggest argument for the second theory is that red Soviet enamel, I wouldn't know myself but apparently it's very hard to copy it.
Based on the photo I guess that 14056 is coming from Bulgaria... Most of these orders are being sold by the same sellers.
This subject was also discussed in HERE.0 -
Thank you for the tip! The photo was taken at the same location and even though some of the faces appear on both postcards, Serbia had different representative in 1913, unfortunately.
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There was also a special British mission attending the maneuvers which consisted of:
-Wilson, brigade general
-MacDonogh, general staff colonel
-Farquhar, general staff major0 -
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I know, it was not my intention to criticize you in any way When it comes to Moša Pijade perhaps he was formally awarded in 1949 but actually received the order in 1951. According to Rudež the final solution for the order was adopted in December 1950 so no one could really receive the order except on paper. Ivan Ribar on the other hand is a puzzle, when you look at the photo it really looks like he received the order from Tito on the same occasion in 1951. Looks like we'll have to check the Official Gazette...
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Stane Dolanc, 1979
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Nikola Ljubičić, 1976
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Veljko Vlahović, Mijalko Todorović, Vladimir Bakarić, Jovan Veselinov, 1961
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Ivan Karaivanov, 1959
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german citizens with belgium medals
in Germany: Imperial: The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States
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Excellent photo, thanks for sharing it! Were you able to identify that person, if so could you please tell us his name?