army historian

Hello all, I find this particular subject fascinating. This charge was actually a success where as the Light Brigade was just a blunder, and did not accomplish anything. I attach my little display. Cheers Captain Albert

Well if they did - they died. Cheers Captain Albert

Well since this is a hot topic - I am putting in my 2 cent.

#1. I lay direct blame for the raise of Hitler and his mobsters (and WW2) to France, The French wanted to destroy Germany - Check out the territories disputes the Need for the Freider Corp est. See want was really happening post WW1. The German soldiers and many of the civilians did not believe they really lost the War. Churchill was very correct. "Unfortunately, getting rid of the Kaiser was a prime condition in the ultimate peace and another reason the allies can be blamed for WWII. If Winston Churchill's opinions count for anything, he said, "The war would never have come, unless under American and modernizing pressure, we had driven the Hapsburgs out of Austria and Hungary and the Hohenzollerns out of Germany. By making these vacuums we gave the opening for the Hitlerite monster to crawl out of its sewer on the vacant thrones.""

I use Irishgunners point Rebuild - always. Why? Because it's in the interests of the victor to not leave a power vacuum in which unhealthy consequences can breed. That is why we had the Marshall Plan after WWII. That is why post-conflict stabilization is now inherent in current thinking on military doctrine at the strategic level. You can win the war, but lose the peace if you don't deal with the problems of the loser. That's the point of this discussion on the consequences of WWII. It's been the task of the victor to rebuild the loser ever since the victors of WWI screwed up and failed to see the value - to themselves - of doing so." The main objection to any reasonable treatment of Germany after WW1 was France. Pure and simple venomous vengeance, for her lost of Face and the humiliation of her defeat in the 1870-71 Franco-Prussian War. I have read a lot about all the little troubles and intrigues caused by the French, they caused more trouble for other countries "Vietnam, Africa, Asia, etc" than any other country I can think of. They are still doing it! My insight. Respectfully Captain Albert

Hello, all does anyone know it the WW 1 MECKLENBERG SCHWERIN MERIT CROSS MEDAL 2 CL is being repro'ed or are copies being circulated? Thanks Captain Albert

again sorry for the late reply. Yes I got a xerox from what looks like a "Vanity Book" (see below). Cheers Captain Albert

Alright, I will see what I can do. There is a document (pass - for Schroeder from Kaiser safe passport to Istanbul, Turkey. There are two promotion patents, A signed photo of Prince Adalbert (Prinz von Preussen) 1903-1905, (From prince Adalbert to his dear Schroeder in friendly remembrance of the II. Torpedodivision. The xerox picture of Schroeder, and the two diaries, with some photos, many drawing, etc. I believe that about covers it. Cheers Captain Albert

Great, it appears they are moving back in design to pre-soviet times. Bravo! Cheers Captain Albert

Very interesting. Cheers Captain Albert

We don't know

Boy that was fast, and thanks. I thought it might be Godet & Sohn, but wanted to make sure. Cheers Captain Albert

Godet & Sohn Berlin

Yes Joe, I like both - but am more partial to the wide frames. By the Way no has told me who "KAG" is. Cheers Captain Albert

good pick-up!

i love the wide frames AND the delicate narrow-framed

crosses of 1914 issue. variety is the spice of life!

joe

I have an EK2 with the ring marked with a "G". Any idea on the maker. Thanks Captain Albert

again sorry for the late reply. Yes I got a xerox from what looks like a "Vanity Book" (see below). Cheers Captain Albert

May I ask , did you get photos of him with the group ???

Sorry for not replying sooner. There are 2 volumes. I guess about 250 pages, covers 1896 to 1910. Has some beautiful hand drawn illustrations, topography, harbors, etc. He was a gifted artist. Very interesting - I need to get help in translating. As is my German leaves a lot to be desired (non speaker). Cheers Captain Albert

Diaries?

Ohhhhhh...how extensive are these?

Extremely nice and clean collection - congratulations. Also thanks for sharing Cheers Captain Albert :cheers:

Very nice clean piece, congratulations, Captain Albert

Here is my 2 cents, I don't have many Victory Medals, a few in groups. This is a Navy victory Medal with "Escort" Bar, awarded to Lt. Adolph Berry Adams (National Naval Volunteers) - California State Naval Militia. He served on the USS San Diego, and left just prior to her sinking in 1917. The only major U.S. Ship lost during the War. The Medal is absolutely correct as issued, it came from his estate (via Grandson) with the rest of his medals (See post Recipients Stories). Cheers Captain Albert

Chris give us the diameter in inches. That will tell if it is collar brass or horse bridle. It does not look like collar brass. Cheers Captain Albert.

Chris, looks like a decoration for horse bridles. Not completely sure, Cheers Captain Albert

Hello, CBeery, you need to check the WW1 Victory names - see if either has "D.C.M." on it. Also check the names to see if either may have had the D.C.M. Cheers Captain Albert

I see DCM,BWM,Vicory,39-45 Star,Defence Medal,39-45 War Medal, Army LS, WW1 Belgian War Cross. I am guessing he entered after the start of 1916 or at least did not make it overseas until 1916. He came back for WW2 but stayed at home. Would this be an elisted man? Any help will be appreciated.

Yes, DCM only awarded to Enlisted men. After could be an officer. It appears a needle like pin was inserted to hold the ribbon bar on tunic, or there may have been clips on the tunic. A nice cheap find. Cheers Captain Albert

Your wife is correct. Very nice job. Cheers Captain Albert :cheeky:

Very nice, yes simple but, striking. Congratulations, Cheers Captain Albert :love:

Wow, Very nice collection. Cheers Captain Albert

Where is the WW1 EK 2nd? Cheers Captain Albert

Franz-Christoph Schroeder (1879-1925) was promoted to Kapitänleutnant on March 30, 1906 - so the card must be from before that date.

The Kanonenboot (Gunboat) Iltis built in 1898 was assingend to colonial service in Tsingtau (China). After leaving Kiel (Germany) in Feb. 1899 the ltis never returned to Germany again. The ship was scuttled by its crew on Sept 28, 1914 in the harbor of Tsingtau.

Did you get the entire lot? The diaries are incredible. I would like to read them

I started reading the diaries and schroeder was on the S.M.S. Iltis 12 June to 25 September 1903.His commander was Korvettenkapitän Oskar Graf von Platen zu Hallermund. Admiral count Oskar Rudolf Karl Marius of Platen zu hallermund, was the The Last Marshal of Kaiser Wilhelm II. It appears Schroeder then transferred to S.M.S. Hertha - Midshipman Koehlers ship (until he transferred to S.M.S. Thetis, before the Hertha returned to Germany.

Yes I got the entire lot. You may get the opportunity to read the diaries, I need help in translating them. And yes the hand drawn maps, charts, ships, ports, and landscapes etc. are fantastic. Schroeder was an accomplish artist and draftsman. I will post some of the better stuff, as time allows. Cheers Captain Albert :cheers:

You need to lern reading old german writing....

It means:

Herr Oberleutnant zur See Schroeder

For shure it belongs to him.... and he was on SMS ILTIS which was proudly allowed to wear the pour le merite !!! (The ship - not Schroeder .... )

Heiko

Thanks Heiko, yes I need to learn to read old German writing. I though the old Spanish was bad. When was he on S.M.S. Iltis? Thanks Captain Albert