J Temple-West

Morning, Martin

 yes, we're having a few teething problems with the new update software, but that I would love to see....so don't forget to come back with that photo. 

Morning, Rich

lufty to the core, I promise

just can't resist an early piece.

I have just managed to add the last in the series of Assmann breast eagles, for the white summer uniform (Burst-Hoheitsadler für weissen rock), to the collection.

It's taken some time as most of Assmann's zinc examples found in the market place are of late war manufacture, and the later they are, the poorer the detail/condition seems to become.  Luckily, this one is nice and early and has held its detail and overall condition.

I'll post the series in chronological order...the latest zinc addition being, of course, last.

First up: 1st pattern (droop tail) in tombak by F.W. Assmann & Söhne Ludenscheid....as seen in the Assmann catalogue.

2nd pattern in aluminium "A - DRGM" marked

2nd pattern in zinc "A" marked

Just in is this early example, in tombak, of the Minesweeper Badge by Wilhelm Deumer, Ludenscheid with horizontal pin.

Just in...

Introduced on the 1st October 1941, the membership badge was issued to members of German armed-forces auxiliary organizations - Wehrmachtsgefolge. 

Maker: C.E Juncker - Berlin

35mm brooch for females.

23mm lapel pin for males

It's not often that I use the term "mint"... but this clasp (obtained at auction, and received yesterday) has to be an exception.

Date of institution – 19th November 1941

Bronze Clasp (20 Operational Flights) for Transport and Glider Squadrons (Transport und Luftlandeflieger) by Friedrich Linden, Ludenscheid.

I have, at last, managed to acquire an early example of a GAB by the 'unknown maker' in tombak - hollow version. Quite a hard piece to locate, I have to say...

So, any thoughts on who the maker might be?

Cheers , Guys

Hi, Eric

So, I have a rare day off, the dog has been walked… it’s cold, wet and windy and I thought that a bit of research in to the holders of the GPB/ BO/CB would be a good way to spend the day.

To help you along a little in your research, I have been through the 432 pages of the 1938/39 “Dienstaltersliste der Schutzstaffel der NSDAP (SS)†and have come across the following members of the SS that were holders of the “threeâ€â€¦.this includes SS Standartenführer Jakob Grimminger posted by Turtle.

So: Members of the SS who held the Golden Party Badge, Blood Order and Coburg Badge (1938/39)

Name..................Party Number / SS Number

Buch, Walter............... 7733 / 81353

Amann, Max................. 3 / 53143

Graf, Ulrich............... 8 / 26

Maurice, Emil.............. 39 / 2

Füss, Simon................ 72008 / 1700

Eggerdinger, Max........... 14463 / 280332

Grimminger, Jakob.......... 758 / 135

Hirschberg, Paul........... 907 / 99829

Kellner, Karl.............. 45052 / 2636

Göbel, Paul................ 14302 / 712

Remmel, Karl............... 14254 / 289218

Sir, Franz................. 49241 / 1676

Von Sperl, Theodor......... 3536 / 89142

Steinbeisser, Otto......... 10041 / 2854

Wittmann, Karl............. 89036 / 8479

Larché, Erich.............. 260 / 3031

Bäumer, Johann............. 11554 / 5632

Pertl, Josef............... 25015 / 55332

Extremely low numbers when you consider that there are approx’ 14000 members of the SS mentioned in this particular ‘Dienstaltersliste’.

Anyway, hope this helps…

Found this on the Net... Members of SS Div Wiking, one of which is wearing the CB.

I have to agree with Kamilos...

Wiedmann PAB's are most commonly found with the reverse setup shown in the pic posted by Kamilos, but they can be also have a similar setup to the badge posted by Steve, the hinge being made of sheet metal.  It's the overall quality, strange pin and size of catch plate that raises red flags for me. 

Hard to tell...is it ring stamped? If so, it might give us a clue.

I have to say that, if original, it has to be the cleanest example I've ever seen.  I have a cased example, examples on medal bars and all show some discolouration (patina). 

I'm afraid I don't like this one....It has all the hallmarks of being a post war copy.

Hi, Eric

The Deutschland/Lützow was classed as a cruiser (later as heavy cruiser), so members of the crew would have been entitled to the the High Seas Fleet badge, as from its institution on 30th April 1941, under the following criteria.

Those authorized to receive the High Seas Fleet badge are crew members of battleships and cruisers, or those who are connected with the the High Seas Fleet and who have served a period of 12 weeks at sea.

Just in is this early unmarked example, in tombak,  by C.E Juncker - Berlin.

Morning, K

Looks like you are getting better at this....

The items in post #35, going on the pictures supplied, look like they have a good chance of being originals.

Still, better to ask for better pics and 'right of return' if you are thinking of buying.

No need, this is a bad copy.

And Jon would know, being an advanced collector and authority on the subject.

Jon, and only if you have the time......do you think you could give us a lesson on the Blood Order?

You know the sort of thing; history, numbers, types etc.. And perhaps a pictorial on the good, the bad and the ugly.

I, for one, would love to see some of your collection, and am sure that the less informed of us would appreciate the knowledge.

Morning, Peter...

So, dug out my old copy of Forman's guide, and have to say that the example shown (although not being very clear) does have the correct sized swas and the detailed leaves on the wreath as found on originals.

As to when your cross was made.....no idea. Best guess...1970's.

I've put together a quick comparison of an original and your piece to show the differences.

Hope this helps.

Morning, Peter

As you say, fairly well done.....but still a fake. Lots of things wrong with it; general quality is poor, construction poor, the swas is too small, poor gilding, no rivets...to name a few.

A side by side by side comparison with an original would show this up for what it is.

I see no red flags......Looks like an original 1st pattern 1939 wound badge.

A close up of another.

The photo's make it look a little soft, but I agree with you, Sven.... stamped "tombak IAB in B.H. Mayer / Otto Schickle Design" with flat catch.

for comparison, here is another example by this maker with round wire catch.

Considering the rarity of the Blood Order, the amount of money involved in the purchase of such a piece, and the fact that this order is heavily faked....I wouldn't even consider starting negotiations without a set of detailed close up photographs, without the sticker.

That's the one, Don...Nice pic.

Just in is this official vehicle plaque for the 1933 Air Show held in Saxony.

One of the first to be held after the coming to power of the Nazi Party, and organized by the Deutschen Luftsportverband (DLV), these Air Shows were not only used to show the latest in German aviation technology but to also raise funds for the Party and the covert recruitment of pilots for the clandestine Luftwaffe.

Made of nickel silver and green enamel, the plaque was produced by Karl Wurster – Markneukirchen.

Happy New Year to one and all.

Andreas... Finding a set of items tied to one person, like this, is getting very rare these days.....very nice.

hey, Jock.... any chance of a close-up of the maker mark?

any, and all information on stuff like this is gold in determining originality of a piece, especially when it comes to "Osang" as their maker mark (die stamp) has been faked a lot over the years.

The thing to look at, on an original mark, is the difference in size of the "s" in Osang an the "s" in Dresden.

In the meantime...an earlier version to have a look at, this being the two piece with nickel-silver eagle.