QSAMIKE

Hello Paul......

You can also tell the original from the restrike there are small raised dots between the words "CLASSIS PRAEFECTO" and a mark above the "QUEUE" where there was some rust or a flaw in the original die......

This has both the dots and the mark.....

Mike

Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen........

For your Viewing Pleasure.......

An extreamly rare medal / medallion to the American Hero - John Paul Jones

John Paul Jones (1747-1792), The Capture of the British Frigate HMS Serapis by the USS Bonhomme Richard, Silver Medal 1779, for the ' Americana' series, by Augustin Dupré, uniformed bust right, his hair tied behind en queue, JOANNI PAVLO JONES CLASSIS PRAEFECTO, COMITIA AMERICANA, rev the naval engagement, HOSTIVM NAVIBVS CAPTIS AVT FVGATIS, AD ORAM SCOTIAE XXIII SEPT MDCCLXXVIIII, 55mm

References:

(Betts 568; Adams & Bentley, Ch 8; BHM 222, R2; MH 580; CP 105/22; Ford XIV, 203).

There are a number of re-strikes and fakes of this medal / medallion but this one is authentic.....

Mike

Good Morning Mervyn......

If these medals are heading for the smelter as you have stated there are a couple of the bars that I really need...... In my case to a medal that is missing its bars as the bars were issued seperately about 2 years after the medals was awarded so became seperated.......

Not making a new medal......

Transvaal and South Africa 1901 and South Africa 1902

Mike

For anyone who is interested.......

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Boer-War-letter-home-tin-cap-badge-etc-/370449802632?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item5640876588

Mike

Good Morning Mervyn.....

I would think that he would only wear the one, with the 6 bars, as the single bar has been duplicated in the 6 bar.......

I have a pair where the mans QSA was issued as a Private and he was a Corporal...... He kicked up a stink and they issued him a second medal with the rank of Corporal and he was supposed to send the Private back but instead kept it now I have both......

If you look into the correspondence on his file, if available, there may be a letter asking him to return the first medal......

Still a very good group......

Mike

Here is some more information that I have found from the London Gazette and from another collector.....

Mike

MAURICE CHARLES HUMPHREY LLOYD

DISTINGUISHED SERVICE CROSS - Midshipman - River Clyde, Galliopli

London Gazette: 14-3-1916, Page 2870/1 (Galipolli)

Midshipman Maurice Charles Humphrey Lloyd R.N.: While under heavy fire on the 25th of April, assisted to secure the lighters which formed a pier between the River Clyde and the shore.

BAR TO DISTINGUISHED SERVICE CROSS - Sub-Lieutenant - Zeebrugge

In recognition of distinguished services during the operations against Zeebrugge and Ostend on the night of 22-23 April 1918-----

London Gazette: 23-7-1918, Page 8588/90

Sub-Lieutenant Maurice Charles Humphrey Lloyd DSC, R.N. (Iphigenia), (Since died of wounds): Showed coolness under heavy fire and by his bravery and devotion to duty, set a fine example to his men. On abandoning ship, after she had been sunk. Sub. Lieut. Lloyd was severely wounded. This very gallant young officer has since died of his wounds.

Lt Lloyd was one of the heroes of the Zeebrugge Raid.

His emotive story is encapsulated in the white ensign held at the Dover Museum still stained with his blood.

He was an officer aboard HMS Iphigenia, supervising aft, when she was deliberately sunk in the entrance to the canal. Before leaving the ship and boarding the rescue vessel ML282 he retrieved the ship's white ensign. As ML282 escaped, Lloyd was mortally wounded by a shell but clung on to the flag.

Lord Keyes, the raid's commander, recalled how Lloyd had "begged for a place in one of the blockships" after he had completed all the appointments. Lloyd got his wish after the Iphigenia's lieutentant got appendicitis.

As he lay dying aboard the H.M.S. Warwick, Keyes's flagship, which had picked up ML282's complement, Keyes was so moved he petitioned the King to approve an immediate DSC before he died.

He wrote: "Lloyd had the H.M.S. Iphigenia's white ensign wrapped around his waist and it was saturated with his blood. I think he knew his number was up, but was perfectly happy and fearfully proud of having been able to bring away the ensign, which I told him he should keep."

The King approved the award immediately and Keyes was able to tell Lloyd of his DSC bar after his transfer to the hospital ship Liberty, moored at Dover. Keyes recalled that Lloyd, and another officer in the same situation (who actually survived), were "both conscious and fearfully pleased" by their awards.

Lloyd died later that day - a day after the raid on Zeebrugge.

His DSC bar citation spoke of his "great coolness under heavy fire", adding that "by his bravery and devotion to duty he set a fine example to his men".

Ooooooohhhh!!!!!!!

That is fantastic.

I suppose we would slit our wrists if we knew what it cost.....

More than a Dollar and less than Five Hundred Dollars.......

Mike

Mike - I'm a little worried - you say ' getting very discouraged with site' . Is this because not enough members are answering ? I have no experience with other Forums - so I don't know if this lack of response is the usual pattern. I have noticed that whilst a lot look , it is mainly the same group who reply with comments and information. I suppose it's normal - we all collect different things - even within medals.

Sometimes I think the more straightforward collectors just don't realise how exceptionally rare a DSC and Bar is - particularly for the two Actions mentioned. I felt a little let down when the AFC received just passing interest. However, I feel that being part of an important Forum gives us older - and perhaps - more experienced members, a responsibility to show and discuss special medals which are not commonly seen - this, after all, is how we all learn. One other point - you are an experienced past Chairman of a Militaria Society in Canada - as am I for Sth. Africa. We both know that for many collectors it can become a game of numbers - ie. have I got more than you ? With your enormous collection plus, our many other serious members, we are in a position to keep this sub-forum an important learning experience - so, please don't give-up on us ?

Thankyou for showing both sets. Mervyn

Hi Mervyn......

The reason I am getting discouraged is that even though I check the box to be notified of posts by email in threads that I have started and in threads that I have put an answer i am not receiving any answers or emails..... This means that I have to log in every so often to see if there has been any answers, it is getting a bit frustration..... Maybe when the Mods do the next upgrade there can be a box in the profile / registration that you only have to click once and you will get replies to any of your threads or posts..... I am a member of several other forums and this is automatic......

However, I feel that being part of an important Forum gives us older - and perhaps - more experienced members, a responsibility to show and discuss special medals which are not commonly seen - this, after all, is how we all learn. One other point - you are an experienced past Chairman of a Militaria Society in Canada - as am I for Sth. Africa. We both know that for many collectors it can become a game of numbers - ie. have I got more than you ? With your enormous collection plus, our many other serious members, we are in a position to keep this sub-forum an important learning experience - so, please don't give-up on us ?

I agree with you on these comments..... A well known collector here in Calgary really started me off on this path of history and fun by giving me a box of medals and then taught me about each one and that was over 45 years ago and since then I have been trying to share some of that knowledge and knowledge that I have learned over the years.....

Oh I will not give up but it is a bit frustrating.....

Oh another thing thats comes to mind a friend who comes in and looks occasionally says he has a very very hard time reading the posts because he is colour blind and the background causes him trouble, does not bother me though......

Mike

Will try this once again..... Getting very discouraged with site......

Good Day Ladies and Gentlemen.....

Please find attached some photos of a Father / Son group that I purchased today from an estate/garage sale.....

Have a little bit of knowledge but will be doing some extensive research.....

Hope that you enjoy.....

CHARLES PATTERSON LLOYD - (Father)

EGYPT MEDAL - NO BARS - Lieutenant C. S. Lloyd, 2 / East Kent Regiment

BRITISH SOUTH AFRICA COMPANY MEDAL - NO BARS - RHODESIA 1896 - Captain C. P. Lloyd, Engineers (Engraved)

W.W. 1 - 1914/15 TRIO - Major C. P. Lloyd, East Kent Regiment

KHEDIVE'S STAR - Un-Named as issued

MAURICE CHARLES HUMPHREY LLOYD - (Son)

DISTINGUISHED SERVICE CROSS - Midshipman - River Clyde, Gallipoli

BAR TO DISTINGUISHED SERVICE CROSS - Sub-Lieutenant - Zeebrugge

The DSC is un-named as issued but has case of issue, the above information is from a slip of hand written paper that was in the case....

Another interesting item is the BSAC medal has engraved naming but only to Engineers spelt out in full not Royal Engineers, does anyone have a similar one??

Mike

Good Morning Mervyn......

The whole of the bottom row and the two up the side are all Royal Navy......

A photo or my purchases for 2008......

Mike

Good Morning Norman....

Tried to do a scan but due to it be ing columns my scanner scattered it all over the place will try a picture.....

Mike

Good Morning Norman.....

This is only a small section of my books collection but I will admit since I cannot read Afrikaans I will stick to English though I will admit I do have 1 book in Afrikaans.....

190.549 Quartermaster / Signals H. W. Gilbert is on the roll and is entitled to QSA with Cape Colony Bar and KSA with usual 2 bars.........

Mike

More Pictures......

SIMMS, C. (CHARLES) E. (EDWARD)

REG. NO.: 66038

RANK: SERGEANT

REGT: ROYAL FIELD ARTILLERY, "A" SECTION POM-POMS, SERVED WITH 6th BATTALION MOUNTED INFANTRY

BARS: CAPE COLONY, PAARDEBERG, JOHANNESBURG, DIAMOND HILL, WITTEBERGEN

REMARKS / HISTORY:

1. DISTINGUISHED CONDUCT MEDAL, EDWARD VII, 66038 SJT. C.E. SIMMS, R.F.A.

2. KING'S SOUTH AFRICA MEDAL, USUAL 2 BARS (as QSA)

3. ARMY LONG SERVICE AND GOOD CONDUCT MEDAL, EDWARD VII, 66038 BTY. SJT. MJR. C.E. SIMMS, R.F.A. (WITH ANNUITY)

4. MERITORIOUS SERVICE MEDAL, GEROGE VI, 66038 W.O. CL. 2 C.E. SIMMS, (D.C.M.) R.A. (WITH ANNUITY)

5. SILVER WAR BADGE, Number: 294850

6. BRASS PLAQUE: Presented to / BATTY. SERGT. MAJ. SIMMS / BY THE N.C.O.'S AND MEN OF / 5th Battery R.F.A. / ON HIS LEAVING THE SERVICE / 7 DEC. 1908

7. GROUP WAS SOLD WITH BRITISH W.W.2. DEFENCE AND WAR MEDAL, POSSIBLE HOME GUARD SERVICE, POSSIBLE FAMILY MEMBERS.

CHARLES EDWARD SIMMS:

CAME FROM LUTTLEWORTH, LEICESTER AND ENLISTED INTO THE ROYAL ARTILLERY AT PRESTON ON 9TH JANUARY 1888 AGED 18 YEARS AND A BAKER BY TRADE. HE WAS PROMOTED BOMBARDIER IN FEB 1891, CORPL IN DEC 1891, SERGT IN MAY 1895 AND BTY SGT MAJOR OCT 1904. HE WAS DISCHARGED FROM THE REGULAR ARMY IN FEB. 1909 AND IMMEDIATELY ATTESTED INTO THE LEICESTERSHIRE ROYAL HORSE ARTILLERY (TF) WHERE HE WAS IMMEDIATELY GIVEN THE RANK OF BTY SGT MAJOR. HE ATTENDED REGULAR ANNUAL TRAININGS UNTIL HE WAS MOBILIZED ON 5TH AUG 1914 AS BTY SGT MAJOR (WO II) ROYAL HORSE ARTILLERY ).

HE WAS FINALLY DISCHARGED IN JULY 1917 AFTER 29 YEARS SERVICE AND AGED 42 YEARS. HAVING BEEN RECOMMENDED FOR, BUT PRESUMABLY DECLINED, A COMMISSION.

BTY SGT MAJOR SIMMS' GREAT WAR SERVICE WAS ENTIRELY IN THE UK WHICH HIS CONFIRMED BY HIS MIC WHICH REFERS ONLY TO HIS MSM HAVING BEEN AWARDED IN 1946. THERE IS NO ENTITLEMENT THEREFORE TO GREAT WAR MEDALS OTHER THAN THE SILVER WAR BADGE. WW2 SERVICE OF ANY KIND CANNOT BE CONFIRMED.

HE WAS MENTIONED IN LORD ROBERT'S DESPATCH OF 4TH SEPT 1901 AS SGT C. SIMMS, RA BUT LISTED UNDER THE MOUNTED INFANTRY SECTION. SIMMS' DCM WAS PUBLISHED IN THE LONDON GAZETTE OF 27 SEPT 1901 CONFIRMING THAT HE SERVED IN AND WON THE DCM IN THE 6TH BTN MOUNTED INFANTRY.

POSSIBLY A UNIQUE RA DCM TO THE MOUNTED INFANTRY.

MIC SHOWS WO CL II C.E. SIMMS, DCM WAS AWARDED THE MSM WITH ANNUITY IN AO 8TH JULY 1946.<BR clear=all>

Mike

Good Afternoon Gentlemen......

I have been asked for a list of books on the subject of the Boer War......

Here are a few that are from my collection and that you may be able to find either on ebay or Amazon......

Mike

ASHES AND BLOOD, The British Army in South Africa 1795-1914, By Peter B, Boyden, Alan J. Guy and Marion Harding, National Army Museum 1999, ISBN 0901-721-36-0

A SOLDIER WHO DID HIS DUTY, THE RECORD OF SERGEANT-MAJOR ROWAT K.R.R.C., G. Rowat, Drummond's Tract Depot, 1908

ABSENT-MINDED BEGGARS, Yeomanry and Volunteers in the Boer War, by Will Bennett, Leo Cooper and Co., 1999, First Edition, ISBN 0-85052-685-X

ANECDOTES OF THE ANGLO-BOER WAR, Rob Milne, Covos Day, 2000, ISBN 0-620-25439-4

ANGELS ON HORSEBACK, History of the Thorneycroft Mounted Infantry, by Brig.-Gen. F. P. Crozier C.B., C.M.G., D.S.O., Cape Press, 1932

ANGLO-BOER WARS, THE BRITISH AND THE AFRIKANERS 1815-1902, Michael Barthorp, Blandford Press, 1987, 0-7137-1658-4

BADEN-POWELL AT MAFEKING by Duncan Grinnell-Milne, Bodley Head, 1957

BATTLE OF SPION KOP, THE, by Oliver Ransford, Murray Press, 1969

BATTLES OF THE BOER WAR, by W. Baring Pemberton, Pan Books, 1972, Pocket Book.

BIBLE ON THE BATTLEFIELD, THE, by F. C. Vernon-Harcourt, Marshall Brothers, 1903, First Edition

BLACK AND WHITE BUDGET, VOLUME 1, VOLUME 2, Volume 3 AND VOLUME 4, 1899 - 1902

BLACKPOOL DIVISION, ST. JOHN AMBULANCE BRIGADE; THE EARLY YEARS, by Peter Beighton M.D., Ph.D., F.R.C.P., F.R.C.P.C.H., F.R.S.(S.A.), Creda Communications, 1998

BOER WAR IN POSTCARDS, THE, by Ian McDonald, Sutton Publishing, 2001, ISBN 0-905-778-650

BOER WAR MEMORABILIA, The Collectors Guide, by Pieter Oosthuizen, Alderman Press, 1987, (First Edition), ISBN 0-946619-19-0

BOER WAR AND MILITARY REFORMS, THE, by Jay Stone and Erwin A Schmidl, University Press, 1988, ISBN 0-8191-6652-9

BOER WAR, The Letters, Diaries and Photographs of Malcolm Riall from the War in South Africa 1899-1902, Compiled and Edited by Nicholas Riall, Brassey's, 2000

BOER WAR, THE, by Denis Judd, McGibbon, 1977, 0-246-10868-1

BOER WAR, THE, by Tabitha Jackson, Channel 4 Books, 2001, ISBN 0-7522-19391

BOER WAR, THE, by David Smurthwaite, Hamlyn History - Octopus Publishing, 1999, First Edition, ISBN 0-600-59652-4

BOER WAR, THE, by Thomas Pakenham, Random House,, 1979, ISBN 0-394-42742-4

BOER WAR, THE, by Eversley Belfield, Cooper, 1975, 0-208-01558 X

BOER WAR, THE, (Illustrated Edition) by Thomas Pakenham, Weidenfield & Nicolson Publishing, 1993, First Edition, ISBN 0-297-83222-0

BOER WAR - LADYSMITH AND MAFEKING, H. M. Stationary Office, 1901, (Reprint), Pocket Book. ISBN 0-11-702408-2

BOER WAR SERVICES OF MILITARY OFFICERS OF THE BRITISH, COLONIAL ARMIES, IMPERIAL YEOMANRY, MOUNTED INFANTRY, LOCAL UNITS etc. 1899 - 1902 INCLUDING EARLIER SERVICES, Savannah Publications, 1998

BOER WAR, THE, Uniforms Illustrated, by P. J. Haythornthwaite, Arms and Armour Press, 1987, ISBN 0 85368 764 1.

BOER WAR IN POSTCARDS, THE, by Ian MacDonald, 1990, ISBN 0 905 778 650

BOERS AND LITTLE ENGLANDERS, THE STORY OF THE CONVENTIONS, by John Proctor, Allen, 1897

BOERS IN WAR, THE STORY OF THE BRITISH-BOER WAR OF 1899-1902, AS SEEN FROM THE BOER SIDE, WITH A DESCRIPTION OF THE MEN AND METHODS OF THE REPUBLICAN ARMIES, by Howard C. Hillegas, Appleton and Co., 1900

BREAKER MORANT AND THE BUSHVELD CARBINEERS, Edited by Arthur Davey, Second Series No. 18 Van Riebeeck Society, Capetown 1987.

BRITISH REGIMENTS IN SOUTH AFRICA 1899-1902, by John Sterling, 1903 (1994 Hayward Reprint), ISBN 0-903754-80-0

BRITISH-BOER WAR, AN HISTORICAL AND PICTORIAL SOUVENIR, by Israel Smith Clare, Souvenir Publishing Co., 1900

CAMILLO RICCHIARDI, Italian Boer War Hero, by Mario Lupini, Scripta Africana Series, 1988

CAMPAIGN PICTURES OF THE WAR IN SOUTH AFRICA 1899-1900, Letters from the Front, by A. G. Hales, Cassell and Co. 1900, Second Edition

CANADA'S LITTLE WAR, Fighting for the British Empire in Southern Africa, 1899-1902, by Carmen Miller, James Lorimer & Company, 2003 (First Edition), ISBN 1-55028-800-8

CANADA'S SONS ON KOPJE AND VELDT, A HISTORICAL ACCOUNT OF THE CANADIAN CONTINGENTS, by T. G. Marquis, Canada's Sons Publishing, 1900. (Blue Cloth Binding)

CANADIAN GIRL IN SOUTH AFRICA, A., by E. Maud Graham, William Briggs Press, 1905, First Edition.

CANADIAN MOUNTED RIFLEMAN AT WAR, 1899-1902, A., The Reminiscences of A.E. Hilder, Edited by A. G. Morris, Second Series No. 31 Van Riebeeck Society, Capetown 2000.

CANADIAN CONTINGENTS AND CANADIAN IMPERIALISM, THE, by W. Sanford Evans, Publishers Syndicate, 1901

CANADIANS IN KHAKI, SOUTH AFRICA 1899-1900, Montreal / Toronto News Company, Herald Publishing, 1900

CANADIANS IN KHAKI, SOUTH AFRICA 1899-1900, Ursual, Re-Print 1994 (1900)

CANADIANS, THE, - MEDAL ROLL - Those Who Served in South Africa 1899-1902 - Gary A. Roncetti & Edward E. Denby, Denby and Associates, 1985

CASSELL'S HISTORY OF THE BOER WAR 1899-1901, by Richard Danes, Cassell and Co., 1901.

CELEBRITIES OF THE ARMY, London, 1900

CHAPLAINS AT THE FRONT, Incidents in the Life of a Chaplain during the Boer War, 1899-1900, by Owen Spencer Watkins, Partridge & Co., 1901, (First Edition).

CHARGE!, A STORY OF BRITON AND BOER, by G. Manville Fenn, Chambers, Unkn.

CHURCHILLS IN AFRICA, by Brian Roberts, Taplinger, 1970, ISBN 0-8008-1580-7

CITY IMPERIAL VOLUNTEERS, THE RECORD OF THE MOUNTED INFANTRY OF THE, Edited by Guy H, Guillum Scott and Geoffrey L, McDonell, E. & F. N. Spon Ltd, 1902 (First Edition).

CLEARLY MY DUTY - Sir John Gilmour's Letters from the Boer War, Edited by Patrick Mileham, Tuckwell Press, 1996 (First Edition), ISBN 1-898410-34-8.

COLONIALS IN SOUTH AFRICA, 1899-1902, by John Sterling, 1907 (1990 Hayward Reprint), ISBN 0-903754-44-4

COMMANDO, A Boer Journal of the Boer War, by Deneys Reitz, Faber & Faber, 1935.

DIARY OF THE 9th QUEEN'S ROYAL LANCERS DURING THE SOUTH AFRICAN CAMPAIGN 1899-1902, by Lieut. Colonel F. F. Colvin and Captain E. R. Gordon, Roy Publishing, 1904, Reprint 1999.

DIARY OF A SOLDIER, BOER WAR 1899-1902, Colour Sgt. Robert Young, 3763, 3rd Battalion Royal Irish Rifles, Edited by Bernard Boden, Unkn, Unkn.

DUELLING WITH LONG TOMS, 16th BATTERY SOUTHERN DIVISION R.G.A., by David Martin, Impression Print, 1988

ELANDSLAAGTE, ACCOUNT AND MEDAL ROLL, by David J. Biggins, Token Publishing Ltd, 2004, ISBN 1-8701-9257-5

FIELD GUN JACK VERSUS THE BOERS, The Royal Navy in South Africa 1899-1900, by Tony Bridgland, Leo Cooper Ltd., 1998, ISBN 0-85052-580

FIELD-MARSHAL LORD ROBERTS, V.C., K.P., G.C.B., G.C.S.I., G.C.I.E., A Biographical Sketch by Horace G. Groser, Melrose, 1902

FIGHTING FOR THE EMPIRE, A story of the War in South Africa by James Otis, Dana Estes & Co., 1900, First Edition

FORGOTTEN WAR, THE, AUSTRALIAN INVOLVEMENT IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN CONFLICT OF 1899-1902, by L. M. Field, Melbourn U.P., 1979, 0-522-84149 X

FROM CAPETOWN TO LADYSMITH, by G. W. Steevens, Blackwood & Sons, 1900, First Edition.

FROM QUEBEC TO PRETORIA, WITH THE ROYAL CANADIAN REGIMENT, by W. Hart-McHarg, William Briggs, 1902

GERMAN OFFICIAL ACCOUNT OF THE WAR IN SOUTH AFRICA, OCTOBER 1899 TO JANUARY 1900, Prepared in the Historical Section of the Great General Staff, Berlin. Col. W. H. H. Waters, John Murry, 1907

GERMAN OFFICIAL ACCOUNT OF THE WAR IN SOUTH AFRICA, MARCH 1900 TO SEPTEMBER 1900, The Advance to Pretoria after Paardeburg, The Upper Tugela Campaign etc. Prepared in the Historical Section of the Great General Staff, Berlin. Col. Hubert Du Cane, R.A., MVO, John Murry, 1906

GOOD-BY DOLLY GRAY, THE STORY OF THE BOER WAR, by Rayne Kruger, Cassell, 1964 (1959)

GREAT BOER WAR, THE, by Arthur Conan Doyle, Morang & Co., November 1900

GREAT BOER WAR, THE, 1899-1901, The Letters of Captain F. D. Price, Boer War Books, 1987, Limited Edition of 100.

GREAT ANGLO-BOER WAR, THE, by Byron Farwell, Fitzhenry & Whiteside, 1976, 0-88902-045-0

H.A.C. IN SOUTH AFRICA, THE, A Record of the Services rendered in the South African War by Members of the Honourable Artillery Company, by Basil Williams and Erskine Childers, Smith, Elders & Co., 1903, First Edition.

H.M.S. POWERFUL, THE STORY OF, From the Diary of a "Powerful" Man, Dedicated to Captain Hedworth Lambton, R.N., Marshall & Son, 1900

H.M.S. TERRIBLE, THE COMMISSION OF, by George Crow M.A.A., George Newnes Ltd., 1903, (Reprint)

HANDBOOK OF THE ANGLO-BOER WAR - Major Darrell Hall, University of Natal Press, 1999, ISBN 0-86980-949-0

HEROES OF THE BOER WAR, by Frederik Rompel, Netherlands Publications, 1903

HISTORY OF THE WAR IN SOUTH AFRICA, by James H. Birch, McDermod and Logan, 1899.

IN THE RANKS OF THE C.I.V., A Narrative and Diary of Personal Experiences with the C.I.V. Battery (Honourable Artillery Company) in South Africa, by Erskine Childers, Smith Elder & Co., 1901, First Edition

INNISKILLING DIARIES, THE, 1899-1903, 1st Battalion, 27th Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers in South Africa, by Martin Cassidy, Leo Cooper, 2001, ISBN 0-85052-824-0

KEKWICH IN KIMBERLY, Being an account of The Defence of the Diamond Fields, October 14th, 1899 - February 15th, 1900 by Lieut.-Col. W.A.J. O'Meara, C.M.G., Medici Society, 1926

KIMBERLY FLYING COLUMN, BOER WAR REMINISENCES, by Trooper Frank Perham, "C" Squadron 5th New Zealand Contingent, Timary, 1957

LADYSMITH THE DIARY OF A SIEGE, by H. W. Nevinson, New Amsterdam, 1900

LADYSMITH, by Ruari Chisholm, Osprey, 1979, ISBN 0-85045-3127

LADYSMITH, by Giles Foden, Faber and Faber, 1999, ISBN 0-571-20366-3

LADYSMITH, THE SIEGE, Battleground South Africa Series, Lewis Childs, Cooper, 1999, ISBN 0-85052-653-1

LADYSMITH, COLENSO/SPION KOP/HLANGWANE/TUGELA HEIGHTS, Battleground South Africa Series, Lewis Childs, Cooper, 1999, ISBN 0-85052-611-6

LAST POST, THE, A ROLL OF ALL OFFICERS (NAVAL. MILITARY and COLONIAL) WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR THEIR QUEEN, KING AND COUNTRY, IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN WAR, 1899 - 1902, Mildred G. Dooner, J.B. Hayward and Son, (1903) 1980

LEAGUER OF LADYSMITH, THE, by Captain C. M. Dixon 16th Lancers, E and Spottiswoode, 1900, First Edition.

LIFE OF LORD ROBERTS, K.G., V.C., Sir George Forrest, Cassell and Co., 1914

LIFE OF MAJOR-GENERAL WAUCHOPE, C.B., C.M.G., LL.D., by Sir George Douglas Bart. Hodder and Stoughton, 1905

LION OF THE FRONTIER, SAM STEELE, by Robert Stewart, Centax Books, ISBN 1-894022-23-8, 1999

LUMSDENS HORSE, THE HISTORY OF, A Complete record of the Corps from its Formation to its Disbandment, edited by Henry H. S. Pearse, Green & Co., 1903, First Edition

MAFEKING, A VICTORIAN LEGEND, by Brian Gardner, Sphere Books, 1968, Pocketbook.

MAFEKING, DIARY, A Black Man's View of a White Man's War, by Sol T. Plaatje, Meridor Books, 1990, ISBN 0-85255-068-5

MAFEKING MAIL SIEGE SLIPS, Compiled/Edited by Colin Walker, Limited Edition of Thirty Books, Number 18, November 2008

MAFEKING, A DIARY OF THE SIEGE, by Major F. D. Baillie, Constible, 1900

MEDAL ROLL - ELANDSLAAGTE, Account and Medal Roll - by David J. Biggins, Token Publishing, 2004, ISBN 1-8701-9257-5

MEDAL ROLL - THE TRANSPORT MEDAL ROLL, 1899 - 1902, Oaklands, 1973.

MEDAL ROLL - THE CORPS OF ROYAL ENGINEERS, Editor Lt. Col. M. R. Watson, ISBN 0-903530-23-6

MEDAL ROLL - THE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE CROSS, 1901-1938, Editor W. H. Fevyer, London Stamp Exchange, ISBN 0-948130-63-6

MEDAL ROLL - THE CAPE OF GOOD HOPE GENERAL SERVICE MEDAL, edited by Colin R. Owen, Chimperie Publications

MEDAL ROLL - THE CANADIANS, Those Who Served in South Africa 1899-1902 - Gary A. Roncetti & Edward E. Denby, Denby and Associates, 1985

MEDAL ROLL - THE QUEEN'S SOUTH AFRICA MEDAL TO THE ROYAL NAVY AND THE ROYAL MARINES, by W. H. Fevyer and J.W. Wilson, Spink and Son, 1983, ISBN 0-907605-08.7

MEDAL ROLL - O'OKIEP, THE DEFENCE AND RELIEF OD O'OKIEP 4 APRIL-4 MAY, 1902, by Brian L. Kieran, Bourne Press, 1995 (First Edition), ISBN 976-8136-31-6.

MEDAL ROLL - QUEEN'S SOUTH AFRICA MEDAL, RELIEF OF MAFEKING

MEDAL ROLL - SOUTH AFRICAN WAR, 1899-1902: SERVICE RECORDS OF BRITISH AND COLONIAL WOMEN, A record of the service in South Africa of Military and Civilian Nurses, Laywomen and Civilians, by Sheila Grey, Uniprint, 1993 (First Edition), ISBN 0-473-01926-4.

MUSTER ROLL OF ANGUS 1899-1900, A Record and a Tribute, by Angus Lindsay-Carnegie and Jane C.C. MacDonald, Brodie & Salmon, 1900, First Edition.

MY REMINISCENCES OF THE ANGLO-BOER WAR, by General Ben Viljoen, Hood, Douglas and Ward, 1902

MY EXPERIENCES OF THE BOER WAR, by Count Sternberg, Longmans, 1901

NATIONAL ARMY MUSEUM BOOK OF THE BOER WAR, THE, by Field Marshal Lord Carver, Sidgwich & Jackson, 1999, ISBN 0-283-06333-5

NAVAL BRIGADES IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN WAR 1899 - 1902, London Stamp Exchange Re-print

NO COLOURS, NO DRUMS, Canadians in the South African Constabulary, by Jim Wallace, Bunker to Bunker Press, 2003 (First Edition), ISBN 1-894255-27-5.

OLD CHELTONIAN SOUTH AFRICAN WAR MEMORIAL, Memorial Cross, Unknown Author, Sawyer and Son, 1904

ON ACTIVE SERVICE WITH THE NORTHUMBERLAND AND DURHAM YEOMANRY SOUTH AFRICA 1900-1901, by Karl B. Surgin, Walter Scott Publishing, 1902, First Edition.

ON THE HEELS OF DEWET, by Capt. Grant Manvill, (under the name of The Intelligence Officer" aka "Linesman"), Blackwood and Sons, 1902

OUR LITTLE ARMY IN THE FIELD, THE CANADIANS IN SOUTH AFRICA, 1899-1902, by Brian Reid, Vanwell Publishing, 1966, ISBN 1-55125-024-1

PAINTING THE MAP RED, CANADA AND THE SOUTH AFRICAN WAR, 1899-1902, by Carman Miller, McGill Press, 1993, ISBN 0-7735-0913-5

POST OFFICE MILITANT - 1899-1902 - THE ANGLO BOER WAR, by A.G.M. Battan, F.R.P.S.L., R.D.P.S.A., Private Publication, 1981.

PRETORIA FROM WITHIN DURING THE WAR 1899-1900, by H. J. Batts, Shaw and Co. 1903

PRIVATE TUCKER'S BOER WAR DIARY, by Pamela Todd and David Fordeham, Elm Tree Books, 1980, ISBN 0-241-10272-3

SAVAGE WARS, THE, BRITISH CAMPAIGNS IN AFRICA 1870-1920, by lawrence James, St. Martins Press, 1985

SCAPEGOAT OF THE EMPIRE, The True Story of The Bushveldt Carbineers, by Lieutenant George Witton, Angus & Robertson, 1907 Reprinted 1982

SCOUTING ON TWO CONTINENTS, by Major Frederick Russell Burnham, Heinmann Ltd., 1926, First Edition

SECOND BATTALION ROYAL DUBLIN FUSILIERS IN THE SOUTH AFRICAN WAR, With a Description of the Operation in the Aden Hinterland, by Major C.F. Romer and Major A. E. Mainwaring, A.L. Humphreys Publishing, 1908, (Reprint),

SIEGE OF LADYSMITH, THE, by Gerald Sharp, Macdonald & Jane's, 1976, ISBN 0-356-08346-2

SMITH-DORRIEN, by B.Gen. C. Ballard, Constable, 1931

SOLDIER'S DIARY, A, THOMAS CHAMBERS, Edited by Graham Chambers, Pentland Press, 1999, (First Edition), ISBN 1-85821-635-4

SOUTH AFRICA AND THE TRANVAAL WAR, 7 Volumes by Louis Creswick, Varous dates per volume starting in 1900 and ending in 1903.

SOUTH AFRICAN WAR, 1899-1902: Mentioned In Dispatches, by A. Maloyd, Privately Published, 2001, (First Edition), Compiled from announcements which have appeared in the London Gazette.

SOUTH AFRICA, IT'S HISTORY, HEROES AND WARS, by Proff. W. Douglas Mackenzie, Briggs, 1899

SOUTH AFRICAN WAR CASUALTY ROLL, THE NATAL FIELD FORCE, 20th October 1899 - 26th October 1900, by J. B. Hayward and Son 1980.

SOUTH AFRICAN FIELD FORCE CASUALTY LIST 1899 - 1902, Oaklands, 1972

SPION KOP, THE BATTLE OF, by Oliver Ransford, Murry, 1969, 0-7195-1914-4

SPION KOP, by H. G. Castle, Altmark Publishing, 1976, ISBN 0 85524 251 5

SPION KOP DISPATCHES. H. M. Stationary Office, 1902 (Reprint)

STAFF WORK OF THE ANGLO-BOER WAR 1899-1901, by Lady Briggs, 1901

STORY OF THE WAR IN SOUTH AFRICA 1899-1900, by Captain A. T. Mahan, U.S.N., Greenwood Press, First Published 1900, Reprinted 1968.

STORY OF SOUTH AFRICA, THE, THE HISTORICAL TRANSFORMATION OF THE DARK CONTINENT BY THE EUROPEAN POWERS AND THE CULMINATIING CONTEST BETWEEN GREAT BRITAIN AND THE SOUTH AFRICAN REPUBLIC IN THE TRANSVAAL WAR, by John Clark Ridpath, Edward S Ellis, John A. Cooper, J. H. Aiken, World Publishing, 1899

STRATHCONA'S HORSE, SOUTH AFRICA, 1900-1901, Strathcona Museum, Bunker to Bunker Press, 2000, ISBN 0-9699599-3-6

TALE OF A FIELD HOSPITAL, THE, by Frederick Treves, Cassell and Co., 1900

THANK GOD WE KEPT THE FLAG FLYING, The Siege and Relief of Ladysmith 1899-1900, by Kenneth Griffith, Viking Press, 1974, ISBN 0-670-69756-7

THOSE BLOODY WOMEN, Three Heroines of The Boer War, by Brian Roberts, John Murray Co., 1991, ISBN 0-7195-4858-9

TO THE BITTER END, A PHOTOGRAPHIC HISTORY OF THE BOER WAR 1899-1902, by Emanoel Lee, Viking Press, 1985, ISBN 0-670-80143-7

TROOPER 8008, I.Y., by Hon. Sidney Peel, Edward Arnold Ltd., 1901.

THREE WAR YEARS, (OCTOBER 1899-JUNE 1902), By Christiaan Rudolf De Wet, 1901

TWENTY FIVE YEARS SOLDIERING IN SOUTH AFRICA, by A Collonial Officer, (Harry Vernon Woon), 1909

TWO YEARS ON TREK, Being some account of The Royal Sussex Regiment in South Africa, by Lt. Col. Du Moulin, Edited b y H. F. Bidder, Murray and Co., 1907 (First Edition).

UNDER THE VIERKLEUR, by General Ben Viljoen, Small, Maynard & Co., 1904, First Edition. (7,000 Copies)

UNDER THE UNION JACK, Volume 1 and 2, March 10th, 1900 to July 14th 1900.

WAR TO DATE, THE, (March 1, 1900), by Arthur H. Scaife, Unwin, 1900, First Edition.

WAR SKETCHES IN COLOR, by Captain S. E. St.Leger, Adam & Charles Black Publishing, 1903, First Edition.

WAR IMPRESSIONS, Being a Record in Colour by Mortimer Menpes, Transcribed by Dorothy Manpes, Blacks, 1903.

WAR IN SOUTH AFRICA AND THE DARK CONTINENT FROM SAVAGERY TO CIVILIZATION, by William Harding, Dominion Printing, 1899

WAR CORRESPONDENTS, THE, THE BOER WAR, by Raymond Sibbald, Sutton, 1993, 0-7509-0042-3

WEST POINTER WITH THE BOERS, A, Col. J. Y. F. Blake, Irish Brigade, Angel Guardian, 1903

WHO OUGHT TO WIN, OOM PAUL OR QUEEN VICTORIA, The South-African Struggles, A History of the Dutch-English Settlement in South Africa from its Origin to the Present Day, by Spencer Randolph, Laird and Lee Publishing, 1900

WINSTON CHURCHILL'S BOER WAR, LONDON TO LADYSMITH VIA PRETORIA, IAN HAMILTON'S MARCH, by Winston Churchill, Mandarin, 1990, ISBN 0 7493 0198 8 (PB).

WITH BOER AND BRITISHER IN THE TRANSVAAL, by Wm. Murray Graydon, Street & Smith, 1900, Very early pocketbook, very fragile, First Edition.

WITH GENERAL FRENCH AND THE CAVALRY IN SOUTH AFRICA, by Charles Sydney Goldmann, MacMillan and Co. 1903

WITH THE ROYAL CANADIANS, by Stanley McKeowan Brown, Publishers Syndicate, 1900

WITH BULLER IN NATAL, OR A BORN LEADER, by G. A. Henty, Blackie and Son, Unkn.

WITH THE FLAG TO PRETORIA AND AFTER PRETORIA, THE GUERILLA WAR, Volume 1, 2, 3, and 4., 1900 to 1902

WITH "BOBS" IN SOUTH AFRICA, The Army and Navy Illustrated, November 11th, 1899 to June 23rd, 1900.

WITH THE GUNS IN SOUTH AFRICA, by Lieut E. W. B. Morrison, D Battery R.C.A., Spectator, 1901

WORDS BY AN EYEWITNESS, THE STRUGGLE IN NATAL, by Capt. Grant Manvill, (under the name of "Linesman"), Blackwood and Sons, 1902

YEOMAN'S LETTERS, A., by P. T. Ross (Late Corporal 69th Sussex Company I.Y.), Simpkin & Co. 1901.

Quite a few Irish served with the Boers under the command of Major John MacBride. MacBride was later executed by the British after the 1916 Rising in Dublin even though he had only played a minor part, most likely they had not forgotten his earlier hostility towards them. MacBride is also noteworthy since he married Maud Gonne, who was the unrequited love of W B Yeats and the inspiration for much of his earlier poems. Their son, Sean MacBride was an active republican who went on to be a founder of Amnesty International.

I would love to know if there is a published list of the Irish individuals who served with the Boers since many of them later played a part in the Irish Volunteers.

Check out this book.....

WEST POINTER WITH THE BOERS, A, Col. J. Y. F. Blake, Irish Brigade, Angel Guardian, 1903

Mike

Here you go Len........

This is what you can look forward to collecting......

Mike

Jonas......

There were Irish, Dutch, German and American units that fought with the Boers against the British.....

Mike

Well done Jonas - you won that 'fair and square'. Mike that was a very good challenge - and I will be quite honest and say I have not seen one before.

OK - another 'not so easy one' :

1. What is the purpose of this item and, 2. Who was the Sultan. Clue - he is famous for an infamous deed. (that's giving it to you........)

Mervyn......

This is from Tipu Sultan - the Tiger of Mysore, either a Bed Post, Chair/Throne or Staff.......

As captured by Sergeant Richard Sharpe in "Sharpe's Tiger".....

Mike

Reverse of Medallion......

Comments Welcome.....

Mike

COMMEMORATIVE MEDALLION SCANDINAVIAN CORPS AT MAGERSFONTEIN 1899

SHAPE: CIRCULAR

OBVERSE:

QUARTERED ARMS OF THE SCANDINAVIAN NATIONS WITH SURROUND INSCRIPTION "AT MINNET AV DEN SKANDINAVISKA KAREND STRID VID MAGERSFONTEIN 1899".

REVERSE:

VIKING LONGBOAT AT SEA, AND LOWER INSCRIPTION, "DE KEUNDE ICKE VIKA BLOTT FALLA KUNDE DE."

METAL: BRONZE

MAKER: C. C. SPORRONG & CO.

SIZE: 90 mm

REMARKS / HISTORY:

1. REVERSE, ROUGH TRANSLATION: "THEY COULD NOT SURRENDER ONLY FALL (DIE)."

2. OBVERSE ROUGH TRANSLATION: FOR THE MEMORY OF THE SCANDINAVIAN CORPS BATTLE AT MAGERSFONTEIN, 1899.


The following was sent to me by a member of another forum and is used for information / reasearch purposes only.....

The Scandinavian Corps in South Africa

(An edited translation of a chapter in "Svenska Frivilliga" by Lars Ericson)

The Scandinavian Corps was founded just before the outbreak of hostilities at a meeting in Pretoria. Recruiting was mainly among Scandinavian miners around Johannesburg, but the corps also contained a number of sailors. The corps was mounted, and in 1899 they consisted of 9 officers and NCOs and 104 ORs. (45 swedes, 24 danes, 18 finns, 13 norwegians and 13 others)

The CO was Captain Axel Christer Helmfrid Uggla (a railway engineer) from Sweden. On 16th October 1899 about 50 men of the corps paraded for President Krüger before leaving for the front. His second in command was fellow Swede (from Sundsvall) Erik Ståhlberg, the only officer who was a trained officer. Lieutenant Ståhlberg got about a week to try to give some basic military training to the force, where previous military- weapons- or equestrian training was scarce.

The corps tasks were mainly sabotage operations, but they also took part in the Siege of Mafeking and the battles at Magersfontein an Paardeberg.

The were present at the siege of Mafeking, were they served as mounted infantry and clearing mines laid by the defenders. They also demolished railway lines and took horses from the british. The second in command, Erik Ståhlberg wrote in 1901 after coming home about the siege: "The bombardment continues day after day. But it is not impossible getting new friends on the opposite side. Sundays and holidays hostilities cease and it is possible to meet the British in all friendliness, swapping meat for whisky!"

At the end of November the Scandinavian corps were part of the force sent out to meet the relief column. On 9th December the boer forces had entrenched themselves on a ridge, with the Scandinavians along with two other Boer detachments entrenched as outposts. The Scandinavian force was 3 officers and 49 men. Their task was to give warning and delay a British attack.

On 11th December, the Highland Brigade attacked. Captain J. Allum in the Scandinavian trenches tells: "It was a rainy, dark night, the men suffering from the cold, which at this time of the year can be severe. Everything was quiet until around 4.30 in the morning, when a few shots were heard on our right. Then silence for a couple of seconds, perhaps a minute that seemed to us, waiting tensely, as an eternity. It was so silent you could hear your heartbeats. Suddenly a firestorm broke out at the foot of the hill on the Boer right flank, and in the next second the mauser's began to smatter, the wounded screamed and the English hurrahs and commands sounded. This went on for about 15 minutes, then silence fell anew. The first assault was beaten back with heavy losses. The Boers had let the English, marching in formation, come very close before opening a devastating fire."

I front of the Scandinavians were 4000 of the Higland Brigade: Black Watch, Seaforths, Argylls and the Highland Light Infantry. After the assault had been broken, the British artillery commenced firing. Before the next infantry attack. The Scandinavians were, according to Captain Ståhlberg, firing 18-20 aimed shots a minute. After half an hour firing 200 men of the Seaforths had worked around the Scandinavian right flank, and the losses among the defenders ros. After renewed attacks with the bayonets the position was overwhelmed. 17 men had tried a countercharge, but only eight Scandinavians managed to get back in the boer lines, the rest killed or wounded. Everyone of the prisoners had been wounded.. It then appeared that the fight had been the result of a mistake. At 3.00 General Cronje had ordered the outposts to get back, but this had never reached the Scandinavians.

Captain Ståhlberg again: "After three hours our resistance is broken. Our CO, Captain Flygare falls in the beginning of the battle, shot in the heart. Lieutenant Berentsen is wounded and man after man falls, drilled by bullets. The Highland Brigade, with the Gordons on the right encircles us. In the final act they fell over us like hungry vultures, and our resistance is over. Carl Albert Olsson from Gothenburg tries to save his brother Edvin, shot in the head by pulling him under cover. He is attacked by two scots whose heads he smashes with the rifle butt, only to fall from several bayonet wounds.

The Swedish nurse Elin Lindblom, serving with the Scandinavian ambulance with the Boers tells: "Early in the afternoon came the seven men who had succeeded in escaping in the battle at Magersfontein (11), six unscathed, a Dane, Krohn, shot in the heel. The rest of the 49 Scandinavians who had been sent to the forepost, were dead or wounded and the wounded were prisoners with the English.

Our ambulance men had gone out with the wagon and in the evening they brought some of the wounded Scandinavians with them, among them Appelberg. He was shot in the stomach and died after a few days and he was buried after a post-mortem examination by a German surgeon. But during the whole day wounded Boers had come in one after the other, some of them wounded who needed bandaging to return to the battle, some in such a state that we had to find place for them in the tent as best as we could. The most seriously wounded man, apart from Appelberg, was perhaps a Boer, named Sauer, who was shot through the throat, and we feared that the spine was injured.

We washed and bandaged them as best as we could and gave them water and food. A mobile ambulance cannot do much in these cases, but it was better than nothing. Our tent was entirely full by the evening. The battle continued uninterruptedly and it was impossible for our ambulance men to go to the battlefield where our men had fallen. It became quiet only after three o'clock on Tuesday afternoon and then they could go there, where they found eighteen dead and two wounded; all the others had been brought by the English to their ambulance. The wounded were two Finns, Backman and Viklund, who were in such a bad state that the English had bandaged them provisionally and left them on the battlefield. They had considered them as hopeless. We also thought this, when they were brought to us on Tuesday evening. Backman was delirious with three bullets through the leg, the whole legbone splintered by a bomb, one bullet in the breast and out through the back which was fearfully torn; it was a miracle that he had not bled to death. Viklund was seriously shot through his tender parts and had one flesh wound in the arm as well as heatstroke owing to sunburn. We feared that his spine was injured. They had lain on the battlefield from 5 o'clock Monday morning to 3 o'clock Tuesday afternoon in the burning sun and bitter night cold, robbed of all their clothes. For even here pillagers are found. We had a German surgeon who had no ambulance to work for and helped us to bring those who could be transported, to the hospital. The nearest hospital was at Jacobsdal, one day's travel away or a little farther from our spot. They were sent toJacobsdal with some of our men. Because Viklund was so seriously wounded we thought it better to keep him with the ambulance until we could see how his condition developed."

The dead were buried on the battlefield, where a monument was erected in 1908.

After Magersfontein the Scandinavian Corps was sent to Bloemfontein, where they reorganized and received 80 men as reinforcements. They were part of General Cronjes command, which capitulated at Paardeberg on 27th February 1900. The Scandinavian POW were sent to St Helena, three of them escaping before the ship left Simonstown. Two let himself be buried in the sand while bathing, and a third jumped overboard with a lifebelt and a knife. All three reached the boer lines safely. The Scandinavian ambulance continued to serve until the end of the war.

In 1920, 15 members of the Scandinavian corps received the medal "voor de anglo-boeroorlog" at a ceremony in Stockholm, three of them nurses. Another 30 Swedes got their medal at the South African legation in Stockholm 1937, six of them receiving a "Dekoratie Voor Trouwe Dienst" as well.

The monument, which still stands at Magersfontein, was an initiative of the Swedish officer Erland Mossberg, who had served in the Cape Town Town Guard during the war. He was an officer originally in "Jämtlands Fältjägare" (translates roughly as "Jämtland Rifles"), the medical officer of Jämtlands Fältjägare was Josef Hammar, who hade served in the boer forces. Mossberg started to collect subscriptions for a monument. The money were quickly raised, with support of national newspapers. The monument consists of a 6.5 metres high steel, with four corner stones 15 metres high representing the different Scandinavian countries. The names of the men killed is on the monument, which was inaugurated on 25th april 1908 by Pime Minister (and former Boer general) Louis Botha, an honour guard of the Kimberley Regiment present. The monument is placed some distance away from the scene of the actual battle, as the land owner of the battleground ( a scot) didn't want a monument to former enemies.

The countries are represented by different inscriptions:

SWE: De kunde icke vika, blott falla kunde de (They could not falter, only fall)

DK: Nu hviler deres ben bag höjen Bautasten. (Now their bones are resting beneath high stele)

FI: På tappra män ser tappra fäders andar ner. (On brave men, brave fathers spirits looks down)

NO: Nu tier stridens larm paa valen, I mindet lever heltens ry (Now the battles din is silent on the ramparts, in the memory lives the heroes reputation)

Killed in the battle or DOW: 11 December 1899 Magersfontein

Danskar
1 Goetterup, Arthur, Naskov
2 Jacobsen, Peter Marius, Köpenhamn
3 Olesen, Frede, Torskind

Finnar
1 Kruts Gustavsson, Matts, Nykarleby
2 Mattson, Emil, Nykarleby
3 Hägglöf, Henrik, Wexala (avliden 14 dec)

Norrmän
1 Dahlén, Johannes, Larsnäs
2 Nielsen, Oluf, Drammen (avliden 12 dec)
3 Olsen, Einar, Mandal

Svenskar
1 Ahlström, Conrad, Lilla Malma
2 Andersson, Julius, Stockholm
3 Appelgren, Carl David, Oskarshamn, fältkommissarie
4 Benson, Albert, Göteborg
5 Benson, Edvin, Göteborg
6 Flygare, Johannes, Natal, Captain
7 Johnson, Nils Alfred, Brunsby, sergeant
8 Landgren, Oscar August, Göteborg
9 Lindström, Emil, Ronneby
10 Mark, Oswald, Göteborg
11 Nykvist, Nils Harald, Göteborg
12 Olsson, Carl Albert, Göteborg
13 Osberg, Fredrik, Göteborg
14 Stael von Holstein, Otto, Kristianstad

Tyskar
1 Lindeberg, Gustav
2 von Rassau, Frans

Nominal roll of known participants in the Scandinavian corps:

The Scandinavians

Sw = Sweden
Dan= Denmark
Nor= Norwegian
Fin = Finaland

Abrahamsen, A.B. R. (Nor)
Ahlström, Conrad F (Sw) ( Died 11/12/1899)
Ahlström Carl (Sw)
Allum, Captain Julius (Nor)
Andersen, Anders (Nor)
Andersen, Thorvald (Dan)
Andersson, J.C.W. (Dan)
Andersson, Johan Alfred (Sw)
Andersson, Carl Gustav (Sw)
Andersson, Julius (Sw) ( ? 11/12/1899)
Andersson, Pontius Alexus (Sw)
Andersson, H (Sw)
Appelgren, Carl David (Sw) (? 13.12.1899)
Backman, Otto (Fin)
Backman, Otto (Fin)
Baerentzen, William Joseph (Dan)
Bagger , H (Dan)
Bakman, Sunnion (Fin)
Bengtsson (Sw)
Benson, A. Edvin (Sw) ( ? 11/12/1899)
Benson, C. Albert (Sw) ( ? 11/12/1899)
Berg, Ernest (Sw)
Bergstedt, K. Pedersen (Nor)
Bergström Oscar (Sw)
Besseling, Johannes Reinierus (S)
Björkman, Axel (Sw)
Blombergsson, Elof A (Sw) (? 18/02/1900 Paardeberg)
Breckan, Thomas (Nor)
Burén Nils (Sw)
Carlsson, Carl Albin (Sw)
Cederström, Baron Oscar Frederick (Sw)
Christense, Wilhelm (Dan)
Christensen, Jens F. (Dan)
Christensen, Gotthardt (Dan)
Christenson, S.W. (Sw) (died 24/01/1900)
Clason, Axel (Sw)
Claudelin Adolf Wilhelm (Sw)
Dahlen, Johannes (Nor) (diedMagersfontein, 11/12/1899)
Dahlquist, Frederick (Sw)
Eggeling, N (Sw)
Einhardt, Rudolf (Sw)
Eklund, Johan Alfred (Sw)
Eliasson, Hans Peter (Sw)
Erikson, Isaac (Fin)
Erikson, H. (Sw)
Eskilson, Erik A (Fin)
Fägerskjöld, Baron Helge Alex (Sw)
Field, Einar (Nor)
Flindthoff, J.F. (Sw)
Flygare, Johannes (Sw) (died Magersfontein 11/12/1899)
Fredericks, S.A. (Dan)
Friis, Jens Jörgen (Dan)
Friis, Aage Jens (Dan)
Fröhling, C.G.A. (Sw)
Frölén, Lars (Sw)
Fromén, Georg Wilhelm (Sw) (died 24/01/1900)
Goetterrup, Arthur (Dan) (died Magersfontein 11/12/1899)
Grafvert, Gustav Adolf (Sw)
Gustafsson, Axel Wilhelm (Sw)
Gustafsson, Carl (Sw)
Gustafsson, Matts (Kruts) (Fin)
Gustafsson, Wilhelm (Sw)
Hägglöf, Henrik (Fin) ( died 14/02/1899)
Hallberg, Theoblad J. (Dan)
Hammar, Josef (Sw)
Hammerstrand, Albert F (Sw)
Hansen, Adolf (Nor)
Hansen, Karl M (Nor)
Hansen, Emil Ferdinand (Dan)
Hanson, A (Sw)
Hatcher, Rymond (Sw)
Hedberg, E (Sw)
Hoyer, A.G. (Nor)
Huet, Gustav (Sw)
Hult, Gustav Adolf (Sw)
Hultin, Carl (Sw)
Ihlen, C. (Nor)
Jacobsen, Peter Marius (Dan) (died Magersfontein 11/12/1899)
Janek, Hjalmar Petterson (Sw)
Johansson, Per Erik (Sw)
Johansson, Jacob (Fin) (died St Helena 11/09/1900)
Johansson, Charles O. (Sw)
Johansson, David (Sw)
Johnnson , H (Sw)
Johnson, Herman (Fin)
Johnsson, Erik (Fin)
Johnsson, Nils Alfred (Sw) ( died Magersfontein 11/12/1899)
Johnsson, Ole (Nor)
Jörgensen, H. J (Dan)
Jungmarker, Viktor (Sw)
Kemp. Charles I (Sw)
Kielland, Hjalmar (Nor)
Knauer, Harald (Dan)
Knutsen, Charl (Nor)
Korhenen, Gabriël (Fin)
Kramer, Maurits (Sw)
Krohn, Peter (Dan)
Landby, H. (Sw)
Landgren, Oscar August (Sw) (diedMagersfontein, 11/12/1899)
Lang, Carl Magnus (Sw)
Larsen, Einar (Dan)
Larsen. Hans (Nor)
Larsen, Ludvig Holge Christian (Sw)
Laursen, Laurs (Dan)
Lindblom, A.S. (Sw)
Lindblom E.C. (Sw)
Lindquist, Arthur (Fin)
Lindström, Emil (Sw)(diedMagersfontein, 11/12/1899)
Lindström, Otto Erik (Sw))
Lindwall. Karl (Sw)
Lundberg, J. (Sw)
Mark, Osvald August (Sw) (diedMagersfontein, 11/12/1899)
Matson, Mats (Fin)
Mattson, Emil (Fin) (died Magersfontein 11/12/1899)
Mellquist, Carl Emanuel (Sw)
Michelsen, C.J. (Nor)
Michelsen, Frans H (Dan)
Mickelson, Johan (Fin)
Möller, August Gustav Otto. (Dan)
Mortensen, J. (Dan)
Nepken, Dobe (Dan)
Nielsen, Carl Peter (Sw)
Nielsen, Hans Peter Christiaan (Unknown)
Nielsen, Ingvold Schröder (Nor)
Nielsen, I.E.P.S. (S)
Nielsen, Jens (Dan)
Nielsen, L (Nor)
Nielsen, Matts (Fin) ( died St Helena 07/06/1901)
Nielsen, Oluf (Nor) (died Kimberley 21/07/01)
Nielsen, Peder Hans Christiaan (Dan)
Nielsen, Sören (Dan)
Nilsen, N O. (Nor)
Nordahl, Evrard (Sw)
Nykvist, Nils Harald (Sw) (diedMagersfontein, 11/12/1899)
Nyman. Jan (Fin)
Odman, Andrew John (Sw)
Ohlson, Charles (Sw)
Ohlsson, John Martin (Sw)
Oleson, Frede (Dan) (died Magersfontein 11/12/1899)
Olsen, Einar (Nor) (died Magersfontein, 11/12/1899)
Olsen, Johannes (Nor)
Olsen, J. P. (Dan)
Olson. Anton (Sw)
Olsson, Carl Albert (Sw) (diedMagersfontein, 11/12/1899)
Onsum, Axel Frank (Nor)
Osberg, Fredrik (Sw) (diedMagersfontein, 11/12/1899)
Overland, Johannes (Nor)
Paulsson, Ole (Nor)
Pedersen, Carl (Nor)
Petersen. Peter (Fin)
Petersen, Jörgen Peter (Dan)
Petterson-Janek, Hjalmar (Sw)
Randers, E.R. (Sw)
Randers, Norman (Nor) (died Magersfontein)
Rank, Johannes (Fin)
Rasmussen, Sofus J.L. (Dan)
Raw, Aage (S)
Reinholdt, W.H. (Dan)
Reismüller, H.G. (Sw)
Rohdin, Hugo (Sw)
Roissdorf (Sw)
Ronning, Andreas (Nor)
Rossan, G.L (Sw)
Rubech, Ludvig (Dan) (died Jacobsdal, 17/03/1900)
Rudbeck, August B. (Sw)
Ruthström, John Rudolf (Sw) (died Modder River, 15/02/1899)
Rydholm. Carl Herman (Sw)
Rydström. John (Sw)
Samuelsson. Carl (Sw)
Sandoen, N. (Nor) (died 24/01/1900)
Sauer, Louis (Dan)
Schaedtler, Victor (Dan)
Schaedtler, O. (Dan)
Schiönning, Aage From (Dan)
Schmidt, Carl (Dan)
Schröder-Nielsen, Peter Einar Ingvald (Nor)
Schutz, John (Fin)
Schultz, Carl Paul Frederick (Nor)
Söderström, Johan Axel E. (Sw)
Stålberg, Erik (Sw) (died Magersfontein)
Stael von Holstein, Otto (Ole) Wilhelm (Sw) (died Magersfontein, 11/12/1899)
Steenberg, Schack (S)
Steenberg, Anders Wilhelm (S)
Sten, J (Sw)
Stenberg, A. W. (Fin)
Stenberg, Schack August (Dan)
Stenros, Karl Anders (Fin)
Stolze, Wilhelm Ludwig (Sw)
Svensson, Hildur Charlotta (Sw)
Svensson, Johan Emil (Sw)
Tholyorn (Nor)
Thomsen, Julius (Dan)
Thorén, Arthur (Sw)
Ueckerman, Sigurd (Nor)
Uggla, Axel Christian Helmfrid, comdt (Sw)
Van Aken, Johannes Arnoldus (Sw)
Von Holstein, Stael (Sw)
Van Kal, Hugo Cornelis (Sw)
Viklund, Johan Niklas (Nils) (Fin)
Walldon C.O. (Unknown)
Wallenberg, Nils (Sw)
Wehlan, Frank (Sw)
Werner, I.E. (Sw)
Werner, Sven Erik (Sw)
Widhom. F.V. (Fin)
Wiklund, Andreas (Fin)
Wiklund, Johan Nikolas (Sw)
Winberg, Anders, Efraim (Sw)
Wipam, William (Sw)

Hi - Mike. I identified this (on Collectors Corner) as late Victorian and into Edward 7th. Will be interested to see if you can identify as late as the George 5th and 6th. ? Mervyn

Hi Mervyn......

I have checked my book...... "MILITARY SHOULDER BELT PLATES AND BUTTONS bu Major H. G. Parkyn OBE, Published 1956 by Gale and Polden"..... But the problem is it only goes up to 1885 I thought it went on later......

I checked my K and K and the crown on the badge is the Victorian Crown as used on the cap badge......

This got me thinking and so I started checking some old auction catalogues..... I found it in one cataloguge with a full white metal badge and called Victorian...... In another with a Bi-metal badge it was called George V......

There are other units that still keep the Victorian style crowns on some of their badges even after the end of the reign......

Maybe it would be good to post on the British Badge forum and they could tell for certain......

Mike

Good Evening......

The regiment that you are looking for is..... THE HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY......

This is not I am afraid a Victorian piece...... I cannot find my book on cross belt plates and buttons right now but I thinkit is from the George V and VI era...... 1910 to the early 1950's......

Willsend you the reference as soon as I find it......

Mike

Good Evening Gentlemen.......

I have just found this thread and have read it from beginning to end with great interest and a number of tears........

I must say that I am not a collector of the Victory medals, they are too new for me, LOL, I collect items to the Boer War......

But I will tell you a little story......

Many years ago over 45 when I first started collecting medals my parents and I were at an estate auction..... One of the lots was a very large frame containing ALL of the Victory medals or at least one from each country, some examples there were two showing both sides...... Down each side of the frame there was an American Navy Medal and an Army medal with all the bars..... I remember there were 2 Brazil and 1 Cuba..... My father asked me if I wanted it as a graduation present from high school and I said yes it would be neat to have..... The bidding started at $200.00 and there were no bids, then it dropped to $150.00, then $100.00 and my father said $50.00 again no bids so he obtained the frame for the $50.00..... I did not have many reference books on them at the time and I really did not know what I had..... A couple of years later when I was off on my own I was looking at the medals I had collected up on my wall and said to myself, you have a lot of items but no real theme to my collection so since I had 3 Boer War QSA medals to members of my family and a number of other QSA's and I liked the Victorian era I decided that is what I am going to collect and have been doing so ever since..... I took the Victory medals to a local coin dealer and asked how much he would give me for them and he offered $500.00 and thinking that was a great deal I sold them to him after all they only cost $50.00..... It was not until a number of years later I realized my mistake..... Now for every $1000.00 I spend on medals I buy about $250.00 worth of reference books and have a large library.....

Moral to the story do your research, buy the books, knowledge from books can add an immense value............

Remember this was long before the internet and fantastic forums like this one......

Mike

P.S. I will not say what the cost of Victorian medals were then except to say I still have the first QSA/KSA pair that I ever bought, a 7 bar QSA, 2 bar KSA was $35.00.......

P.S.S. I wish I had a digital camera then also.......

P.S.S.S. I just remembered a couple had the original design of the "Allies Colour Ribbon", I have attached a photo of the ribbon.

Just a little interrogation about those boxes. Are they given to all soldiers or only to the units serving at the front/ outside their country ?

All serving soldiers, wounded and there was a special tin I understand for POW's (the Germans were kinder then).......

Mike