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      QSA 20th Imperial Yeo

      in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals

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      6 minutes ago, peter monahan said:

      "is it common for only 1 person to be issued a clasp in a company  /battalion?"

      It is the case for WWI and WWII medlas that the service period was usually '30 days' but being wounded qualified one immediately.  QSAMike, similar rules here?

      Good Morning Peter......

      The bars on the QSA can be confusing with the exception of the 1901 and 1902 bars they are straight forward …..  The Army Order reads:

      A clasp, "South Africa 1901" to all who served in. South Africa between January 1st 1901, and December 31st, 1901, both dates inclusive, a clasp "South Africa 1902" to all who served in South Africa between January 1st, 1902 and May 31st, 1902, both days inclusive.

      To read it literally if you served One day you rec'd the bar.....    

      A number of men volunteered to stayed in SA after their original Imp. Yeo. units went home after their 1 year service and were used as a core of experienced people to new units that came from the UK.....   

      And I quote:

      Second Contingent.

      Spring 1901. 16,597 men, of which only 655 re-enlisted from First Contingent, formed in UK, some forming new companies, others replenishing old companies as they returned from South Africa.

      Apr 1901. As the First Contingent Imperial Yeomanry returned from South Africa, the part-time Yeomanry Cavalry in the UK were reorganised as 'Imperial Yeomanry' in mounted infantry regiments of 596 all ranks (four squadrons and a machine gun section). They were equipped with carbines and bayonets, but swords were later permitted for certain ceremonial and escort functions.  Some of the new regiments were raised from South African veterans.

      Third Contingent.

      Dec 1901. 7,239 men arrived in South Africa 1902. The last contingent of Imperial Yeomanry from South African War were disbanded.  The Yeomanry were integrated into the Territorial Force, dropping the 'Imperial' title, and many reverted to their traditional cavalry roles.


      Since your man was commissioned I would think he stayed behind or joined the second contingent....

      Mike 

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      QSA 20th Imperial Yeo

      in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals

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      First name(s)

      		Eric George
      Last name Jeffreys
      Service number 14560
      Rank Lance-Corporal
      Regiment 20 Battalion Imperial Yeomanry
      Year 1899-1902
      Biography -
      Event detail Wounded Severely on 16/09/1900 at Hekpoort
      Event unit 20 Battalion Imperial Yeomanry
      Gazetteer [2526: 2554-2737] a farm and postal agency in the South African Republic (Krugersdorp district; Gauteng), 25 km north of Krugersdorp. At the time of the war, the route from Krugersdorp* to Hekpoort was through Zeekoehoek*. Burghers from the area formed themselves into a commando. In an effort to contain the commando of Asst Cmdt-Gen J.H. de la Rey, Maj-Gen R.A.P. Clements' column moved from Commando Nek (1)* down the valley of the Magalies River (often referred to as the Hekpoort Valley) to Hekpoort on 3 September 1900 and patrolled the surrounding Magaliesberg* and Witwatersberg in the following months. In December 1900, the forces of Lt-Gen Sir J.D.P. French and Maj-Gen R.A.P. Clements joined forces at Thorndale* in the Hekpoort Valley to expel some of de la Rey's commandos northwards through Breedts Nek*. On 30 July 1901 during a routine sweep a patrol of four men of the 1st Dragoons were captured in rough and broken country. HMG III pp.235 and 498 (map no.38),IV p.21 (map no.59). WO108-372
      Event source SAFF
      Country Great Britain
      Literary references The National Archives WO128. Imperial Yeomanry, Soldiers' Documents, South African War.
      Notes
      [The National Archives WO128. Imperial Yeomanry, Soldiers' Documents, South African War.] QSA Clasps: CC,OFS,T,SA01
      Record set Anglo-Boer War Records 1899-1902
      Category Military Service & Conflict
      Subcategory Boer Wars
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      Civil Group Of 13 -Trying To Identify Recipient

      in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals

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      8 minutes ago, paddywhack said:

      Here's a question, given the fact the jublee medals are at the front could this be the bottom half of a group with maybe some ww1 ww2 and campaigns medals so instead of a group of 13 it's could be a group of 20/23?

      No the British wear all their medals in one row.....   With the exception of Orders of course.....       I still think that this is a Royal Household Group....    Mike   

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      WWI memorial plaque

      in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals

      Posted · Edited by QSAMIKE

      I had one several years ago where the cause of death was Stung by Numerous Insects (I guess Bees or Wasps).....    That has to be the oddest one I have ever seen.....

      During the Boer War there were no Government issued Memorial  Plaques just one that the families had to purchase themselves…..  Here are some causes of death that I have gleaned from the causality list.....

      Three Each for the following:
       

      Died of Sunstroke,
      Shot by Comrade,

      Executed for Murder,

      Died due to Fall in a Mine,

      Died of Exposure,
      Killed in Wagon Stampede,
      Killed in Fall under Water Cart,
      Killed in Fall off Railway Bridge.

      Two Each for the following:


      Discharged Due to Felony,
      Died of Compression of the Brain,
      Killed in Fall over Cliff,
      Killed by Bee Stings,
      Died in a Fit,
      Died of the Plague,
      Stabbed by the Natives,
      Killed by Lions,
      Killed in a Bar Brawl,
      Killed attempting to Escape the Boers

      One Each for the following:


      Joined the Rebels,
      Killed by a Crocodile while Swimming,
      Died from Rheumatism,
      Killed after being Gored by a Bull,
      Died of Tempanitis,
      Died from an Overdose of Morphine,
      Died from Exhaustion,
      Died of Melancholia,
      Died of Paralysis,
      Died from Shock,
      Died from Inflammation of Middle Ear,
      Died from a Lacerated Brain,
      Died from a Ruptured Kidney,
      Died from a Strangulated Hernia.......

      Mike

       

       

       

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      BMR - Border Mounted Rifles Badge

      in Great Britain: Empire: Colonial Including South Africa & India: Awards, Militaria & History

      Posted

      2 hours ago, Chrisvo said:

      Afternoon Mike

      Thank you for the response. Just to get the terms correct and please forgive me for something that might sound a bit silly to the more longer term collectors here.. By 'theater made' do you mean made in the field of operations locally or made for use in reenactments of the battle and as such is more of a replica? 

      Chris

      Hi Chris....

      Yes made in the theater of operations.....

      Mike

      PS..... There are no silly questions just silly answers...

       

       

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