question about medal group

[cabbell2207]

Hi gang,

I recently picked up a Canadian ww2 group to a john williams harold heard R-74590 Royal Canadian Air Force. The group consists of a 1939-1945 star defence medal, voluntary service medal and clasp, war medal, and memorial cross engraved. My question is this it came with a copy of his service record from the Canadian Archives that say he was awarded the france and germany star and not the 1939-45 star, very confussed was this possible or could the papers be wrong?

Thank you

[Tiger-pie]

Does the Service Record have his details of when he served in Europe or embarkation/disembarkation dates? This would go some way to solving the puzzle. Chances are he served over Europe and was never awarded the medal due to his demise.

Details, my friend, we need details...(or a scan)

Regards,

Johnsy

[cabbell2207]

Hi Johnsy,

His service records say that he enlisted in september of 1940, he was killed in march 1943 as a result of a crash on a trainging exercise while piloting a wellington. Sadley it does't say when he arrived in england.

thank You

Edited February 29, 2008 by cabbell2207

[leigh kitchen]

1946 Appendix re awards of Stars etc -

"Summary of The Conditions of Award of The Campaign Stars, The Defence Medal, The Waqr Medal and The India Service Medal"

"(iv) Air Force - (a) The 1939 - 45 Star is awarded to all air crew who have taken part in operations against the enemy, subject to the completion of two months in an operational unit"

"(b)Air crew service in operations against the enemy between the 8th May, 1945, and the 2nd September, 1945, in the area described in sub-paragraph (iii) (b) above will qualify, subject to completion of two months in an operational unit"

"© In addition, non-air crew personnel serving in the area of an Army operational command will qualify, six months service in the area of the operational command being the qualification, and special exception being made for those evacuated, e.g., from Dunkirk, Norway, &c., as for the Army above".

(d)Non-ar crew personnel serving afloat qualify under the same conditions as members of the Navy and Merchant Navy".

(vi) General - (a) "Operational service for a lesser period than six and 2 months repectively, but bought to an end by death, wounds or other disability due to service qualifies"

Edited February 29, 2008 by leigh kitchen