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    Posted (edited)

    I've just received this item, I was'nt aware until I got it that the photo original photo had been removed& the current "replacement" stuck down in ts place at some time.

    The photo is oversized & does'nt bear the portion of ink stamp that it should.

    The man's collar tab bears "58/R39", does this bear any relation to the actual NSKK unit of Motor Gruppe / Brigade Berlin?

    (I will add scans of the unit stamp when I get a chance).

    Edited by leigh kitchen
    Posted (edited)

    The unit is given on the first page as 13/M30, Berlin, the collar patch in the photo bears 58/R39.

    What's the significance of the M & the R please, do they indicate the type of Gruppe?

    Edited by leigh kitchen
    Posted

    The unit is given on the first page as 13/M30, Berlin, the collar patch in the photo bears 58/R39.

    What's the significance of the M & the R please, do they indicate the type of Gruppe?

    M=Motorstandarte, M30=Motorstandarte 30.

    "R"=Reserve-Standarte (a normal foot-Standarte with men of 36-45 years) and has nothing to do with NSKK. So the person on the photo wears collar patches from Sturm 58/Reserve-Standarte 39. Resreve-Standarte were disbanded after December 1936.

    Gru? Stefan

    Posted

    Thanks, I'd guessed that the M would be for some kind of Motor unit but had no dea re the R.

    All I've got to do now is decide whether to keep it now it's arrived at a cost of ?50 or return it to the dealer & wait for a book with original photo.

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