Jump to content
News Ticker
  • I am now accepting the following payment methods: Card Payments, Apple Pay, Google Pay and PayPal
  • Latest News

    Recommended Posts

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    What a splendid looking ?numbers signed up? reward.

    Was that what this was given for? Were there different classes for higher or lower numbers of recruits?

    Posted

    Quoted from http://sagongs.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=493 :

    Established to reward service in recruiting for WWI. It was allocated to provinces and other administrative units based on the number of recruits sent forward from that province. The badges were distributed at the rate of one badge for every 1100 recruits. It was left entirely to the individual provincial governments to determine who would get the badges, and the provinces were simply given their quota.

    There were two "waves" of issues, one covering recruiting prior to 1 June 1918, and the second covering late war recruiting from 1 June 1918 to 30 November 1918 (and distribution was stopped after this latter date). Combining the two generations, total issues were:

    Madras -- 86

    Bombay -- 66

    Bengal -- 55

    United Provinces -- 264

    Punjab -- 411

    NWFP -- 43

    Burma -- 17

    Bihar & Orissa -- 39

    Central Provinces -- 12

    Assam -- 15

    Ajmer-Merwara -- 9

    Hyderabad -- 11

    Mysore -- 3

    Coorg -- 1

    Kashmir -- 25

    Central India Agency -- 6

    Rajputana -- 44

    Sikkim -- 1

    Baluchistan -- 2

    Nepal -- 52 (only awarded 10, others returned)

    An ambiguity is raised when we ask whether these 1120 badges the only ones issued? Are "military" awards subsumed within these "provincial" awards? Frankly, I think so, that these were in fact the only badges issued, but the records are vague and confusing on this question.

    Interestingly, we can use these numbers to "read backwards" and obtain another accounting of the numbers of recruits from each administartive unit, suggesting, for example, around 12,100 recruits from Hyderabad.

    Rolls were prepared (in triplicate) to be sent from each provincial administration to the central givernment, showing which badge, by number, was awarded to which individual. To date, none of these rolls have been traced (though I keep trying!). Some badges to serving military, however, were reported by number in Indian Army Orders and can be traced through that approach. This is how I know that the badge illustrated here, #531, was awarded to 16026 Quartermaster Havildar Phuman Singh, Central Drivers' Depot, Poona.

    The badge was worn around the neck from an 18-inch dark green ribbon. While it was supposed to have been worn only at durbars, photos show it being much more widely worn.

    Sources: Foreign and Political Department Proceedings, Int. B, Dec. 1919, 205-244.

    Posted

    To add, from the same off-site thread referenced above:

    OK, I have answered part of my own question--

    Military Secretary to GoI to the Adjutant General, 28 October 1918, Army "B" Proceedings, February 1919, 311A-331 and appendices:

    750 Recruiting Badges available for issue by the Army:

    12 for each division

    3 for each brigade

    2 per cavalry regiment

    22 for artillery

    21 for sappers and miners

    2 for machine gun corps

    3 (sometimes 2) per infantry regiment

    5 for gurkhas

    15 for the adjutant general

    20 for the quartermaster general for the muleteers

    Also an additional issue of 113 badges for the States:

    Nepal 47 (also refused?)

    Rajputana 29

    Kashmir 20

    Hyderabad 7

    Musore 3

    Central India 3

    Baluchistan 2

    Sikkim 1

    Coorg 1

    So . . . this gets us up close to 1983 badges?

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    So what legal status were these given, then? Official government ISSUE/sanction (presuming Royal consent?), or "local" souvenir type badges?

    At least I know now why I've never seen one before! :cheers:

    Posted (edited)

    Official, for sure. But not allowed to be worn in uniform on normal "service" occasions, only at "durbar" -- much like title badges (q.v.) -- but in practice worn much more widely.

    See, for example, this Maratha (?) VCO worthy, examining (gawking at?) his newly awarded 1937 Coronation Medal. If he could wear it to the King-Emperor's coronation, then, well . . . ?!

    (To post this, I have had to reduce, and reduce, and reduce the size so I cannot guarantee what it will look like. Size limitations are MADDENING! THIS IS INSANE!!)

    Edited by Ed_Haynes
    • 2 weeks later...
    Posted

    Ed,

    Here is the one I have in my collection. A couple of questions if you don't mind.

    1) Is there any significance between the green ribbon on yours and the purple mine has?

    2) Is the number on mine (599) traceable at all?

    Thank you,

    Garth

    Posted

    Nice one, Garth. They are getting fairly uncommon, especially in good condition.

    Will see what I can find on the award. These can sometimes be traced, but it requires going through Army Orders. A real nightmate.

    Ribbon? The dark green on mine is correct, yours is on what was probably OBI ribbon.

    Create an account or sign in to comment

    You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

    Create an account

    Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

    Register a new account

    Sign in

    Already have an account? Sign in here.

    Sign In Now
    ×
    ×
    • Create New...

    Important Information

    We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.