Luftwaffe Are these Pilot & Observers badges real?

[shaneos3]

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Hello there,

I was wondering if anyone knew anything about these two badges. They weigh 54 grams each, the Observers badge is 800 stamped and I was told it was unissued when I bought them a few years ago. The wreaths of both badges are identical which is why i believe that If one badge is a replica then they both are although they must have been expensive to make for replicas. I have no idea myself as I have nothing to compare them too. Any information would be much appreciated as I cant find any information about them on the net at all.

Cheers, Shaneos3

[Guest Darrell]

Sorry, both fakes.

[shaneos3]

Thanks Darrell,

What features should I be looking at to tell that they are fake?

Cheers, Shaneos3

[Guest Darrell]

The reverse hardware, the eagles, the wreath, there isn't much on these that conform to known originals.

[shaneos3]

Thank you very much for the info,

Cheers, Shaneos3