1888 patternSlade Wallace Belt and Bayonet Frog

[paul w]

Guys,what do you think of this 1888 pattern Slade Wallace white buff leather belt and bayonet frog?Period made,later (post WW1) made or copies,cheers for your help,

Paul

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[Graham Stewart]

Looks pukka to me and the belt buckle sports a Victorian crown.

[Mervyn Mitton]

Paul - why did you think it was 'wrong' ? I agree with Graham that it looks OK. We often get the 1888 pattern bayonet in with the frogs and this one looks the same.

[paul w]

Thanks for the comments guys.Mervyn,It was just a general question really mate,I dont have a great deal of experience with these items so wouldn't know what to look for in copies.The bayonet frog looks a little newer then the belt and I was wondering if you can tell from the method of manufacture (rivets,stiching etc)the period when they were produced,thanks again,

Paul

[Mervyn Mitton]

Paul, I promised to show a couple of 1888 pattern frogs - herewith. You will see differences in the styles of rivets and in the stitching. The whiteish one was for a guard in Capetown in the Boer War - the other one is the standard suede finish. There was also a polished leather one for the 1903.

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[paul w]

Thanks very much for posting those Mervyn,very nice.I've just ordered an 1888 bayonet and frog,I'll post pics when it arrives,cheers,

Paul

[William1]

Paul

Nice belt, absolutely nothing wrong with that. I am not sure about the frog though, it has the look that the later ones have, though it's hard to be sure from this picture.

Mervyn - that's a particularly nice example on the right. The frogs can be dated from the pattern of rivets, but alas I no longer recall the details! More rivets is later though, I am pretty sure of that.

Regards,

W.

[leigh kitchen]

I typed up a post re the frog models, stitching / rivets etc, but then did'nt post it as it seemed a bit too wide ranging.

I'll dig out the books again....

[Mervyn Mitton]

Yes - I agree with William. The one on the right in my photo is an earlier type.

Leigh, I hope you can find the ref. - always good to have exact details.