Dieter3 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Several questions here. So, starting with the case - indicates a 7th class, but this medal is not enameled. What am I missing? Is this a custom case or an official issue? At any rate, this baby sold for 133,000 yen, just curious to know a little bit more about it as such! http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_07_2010/post-6375-127829957402.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_07_2010/post-6375-12782995832.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichC Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) It's an early medal. 7th Class Rising Sun, dated Meiji 10 [1877], March. Since the medal was established in 1875, this is about as early as you can get. Note that the seller inadvertently switched medals. He stated this in the auction and re-switched the 7th & 8th medals back to their original boxes. The 8th Class medal & box he had went for a high price, too, but it wasn't as early. The almost square box was still quite early, though. Edited July 5, 2010 by RichC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter3 Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 Thanks Rich! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim B Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Never seen one like it, thanks for showing it Dieter! Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter3 Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 Never seen one like it, thanks for showing it Dieter! Tim Interesting case for sure! I wish I would have been paying more attention and grabbed pics of the actual medal that belonged in the case!! I can't recall, but I think that sale that Rich is referring to was in a lacquered case with a push button type mechanism??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim B Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Hi Dieter, I'm not sure either, I assume this was another Yahoo Japan auction? Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul L Murphy Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 The lid lining is named Hirata, which is the name of the private company that made some of the earliest insignia. I have never seen an example of their case before. This is incredibly rare, no wonder it fetched that type of price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim B Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Hi Paul, Was there any point in time where the mint, or only "official" manufacturers took over production of these awards? This is really interesting! Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter3 Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 Hi Dieter, I'm not sure either, I assume this was another Yahoo Japan auction? Tim It sure was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul L Murphy Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Hi Paul, Was there any point in time where the mint, or only "official" manufacturers took over production of these awards? This is really interesting! Tim I'm afraid I do not know the date when Hirata stopped making them. I believe it was only for a few years right at the start of the order's existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichC Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Interesting case for sure! I wish I would have been paying more attention and grabbed pics of the actual medal that belonged in the case!! I can't recall, but I think that sale that Rich is referring to was in a lacquered case with a push button type mechanism??? That's right. Those boxes are still rectangular, but they appear almost square. They have a different interior with a removable rest for the main medal. You can see examples on my site of those (http://www.imperialjapanmedalsandbadges.com/meijicases.html). The latch is different as well, as you noted. I've only held examples of the two lowest classes of the Rising Sun. I've never held one of the Hirata cases, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter3 Posted July 7, 2010 Author Share Posted July 7, 2010 Rich, those cases are super interesting, especially the one at the very top of the page! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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