Guest Rick Research Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Many moons ago in a long buried thread about WW1 Hohenzollern House Order recipient Wehrmacht ribbon bars, this wonder bar was initially attributed by me to a retread OKH Oberst named von Karmainsky. We've come a long way baby since then: additional rolls, and--the key to our Imperial mysteries... Dave Danner's tireless dedication to mining the U.S. National Archives captured Wehrmacht perosnnel files. Meet... Wilhelm Böhm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I was blind, but now I see. What do YOU see when you look at the two Wehrmacht long service eagles? For that is where I went hideously, hopelessly wrong on this one. Ayuh. BRASS eagles with well worn finishes. I thought it was a 25 and 12. Welllll... it is actually a 12 and 4. There is silver on the edges of that second eagle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Here is Böhm's Dienstlaufbahn. He's not wearing a ribbon bar in the photo, but since the photo dates from November 1935 when his file was prepared and he reviewed it, he would not have had that ribbon bar yet anyway, since the Wehrmacht DAs were established on 2 October 1936. After that point, he only added a KVK2X on 24 December 1940, something which many officers never bothered to add to their ribbon bars. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_06_2013/post-432-0-40873500-1372539183.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_06_2013/post-432-0-33235800-1372539198.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_06_2013/post-432-0-83349700-1372539217.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_06_2013/post-432-0-48551200-1372539229.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_06_2013/post-432-0-63499900-1372539243.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 YIKES! I'm blind again! That's got to be some of THE worst handwriting I've ever seen! I can't even tell when he left the imperial army and rejoined the Wehrmacht! BUT we can now combine "three" Böhm entries on the Master List into... HIM. Thanks Dave!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) I could do an Eli Wallach "Good, Bad & Ugly" impersonation about now from squinting. It's not easy being a Research Gnome! (Imagine Dave going through hundreds of thousands of pages just like the above! Peter Karl August Wilhelm Böhm was born in Lüneburg 7 April 1887, son of Fabrikbesitzer max Böhm and Emma K...mann. ARMY: 1 March 1906 to 20 March 1919 and 1 December 1934 to 31 January 1936 (!?), then from 1 April 1936 (!?) to end of 1944 which is where records end. Leutnant 14.02.06 U5u, vorpatentiert some time in 1907, in Infantry Regiment 84. II./IR 84 Adjutant when the war started Oberleutnant 08.10.14 seniority suffix not given. Regimental Adjutant from 01.11.14. Adjutant 108 Inf Brig of 54 Inf Div from 04.10.15 Hauptmann 18.1215 Bb-- Staff 54 Inf Div 22.01.17, Staff AOK c 17.02.17, uniform of IR 84 iG-Stelle AOK C 04.04.17, General Staff couse at Sedan 12.09.17 (flunked?) 24.10.17 to Inf Rgt ?? for front service, 29.10.17 acting commander III./ Inf Rgt 15, 13.11.17 Battalion CO IIII./ IR 15 to 24.01.19 return to IR 84 for hanging around odd jobs until demobilized WW1 awards = EK2 20.09.14 HOH3X 16.05.18 (Staats-Anzeiger 07.06, Militär-Wochenblatt 29.06. for gazetting delays examples) MMV2 09.04.16 (published 28.10. !) as Adj/108. inf Brig SLK 05.11.18 HH 23.11.16 EK1 27.01.16 Returned to Wehrmacht service at first as an (L) officer, Hauptmann aD. Lots of gibberish and file numbers, but service from 1 December 1934. Took military oath 04.03.35 (when service counted again?...) Major (E) 01.10.34 #7 vorpatentiert somewhere in the mess of 1935 entries, Wehr Ersatz Inspektion Hannover 01.05.35, then commander Wehrbezirk Koblenz II 01.04.36 after his inexplicable 3 months discharge, then from before October 1937 (dratted if I can sort out the scribbles!) commander WBK Neuwied (? to 1942) Interwars awards = FKEK 10.02.35 WHDA 3&4 02.10.36 (he missed his 18 by either 5 months or 8 months depending whether 01.12.34 or 04.03.35 restarted his service clock, because of his discharge February-March 1936) WW2 service Oberstleutnant (E) 01.13.39 #6, with uniform of Wehrmacht Inf Rgt 26 (no particular reason for this I can see!), still WBK Neuwied Oberst (S) 01.04.43 #4 but given seniority of #77, "sonstiger Offizier OKH (Inf)" because... 15.05.42 (can that be right, given the below?) Commander POW xxxxx Camp, Limburg/Lahn 19.05.42 Stalag XII for enlisted men ("M" I guess meant Mannschaften) Lüneburg 15.06.42 Commandant Dulag 312 (wherever THAT was ????) 23.08.43 "Krg. Gefang. (Blk?) X" (as in Wehrkreis X?) 01.01.44 Führer Reserve o5.04.44 Commandant Dulag 162 (wherever THAT was ????) 10.11.44 Staff Heeresgruppe Süd (Italy...?) 15.11.44 Staff Wehrkreiskommando XII and that's the last entry we see above. KVK2X 24.12.40 surprised to NOT see a KVK1X in 1943, which would be normal. perhaps moved around too much for paperwork to get passed along up. I got this ribbon bar at the giant Brimfield, MA flea market on 11 September 1998... and it's been unidentified (correctly) until TODAY. With the greatest of appreciation to Dave! Edited June 30, 2013 by Rick Research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 The images that I have are about 1200 to 1300 pixels in width, but when you attach files here, they are automatically shrunk to the point of (even greater) illegibility. son of Fabrikbesitzer max Böhm and Emma K...mann Krassmann 24.10.17 to Inf Rgt ?? for front service Looks like he was transferred back to the control of IR 84, but sent for assignment at the front to 13.ID. I assume the "gem.Verfg.d.13.I.B." in the following entry is a typo for "I.D." since 13.ID's infantry brigade in 1917 was 26.IB. 13.IB was dissolved in 1915 when 7.ID was triangularized. Oberstleutnant (E) 01.13.39 #6, with uniform of Wehrmacht Inf Rgt 26 (no particular reason for this I can see!), still WBK Neuwied IR 26 was formed on 1.10.34 as Infanterie-Regiment Flensburg. Its I. and III. Bataillone were formed from elements of IR 6 in Flensburg, and its II.Bataillon was formed from elements of IR 5 in Schleswig. It must have assumed the traditions of IR 84 from IR 6. Commandant Dulag 312 (wherever THAT was ????) More bad scribbles, but it looks like Stalag 312. I don't think there was a Dulag 312 - there isn't one in the list at the Lexikon der Wehrmacht. Stalag 312 existed from 4.42 to 8.43 under Wehrmachtsbefehlshaber Ostland, but no location is given. "Krg. Gefang. (Blk?) X" (as in Wehrkreis X?) Kriegsgefangenen-Bezirkskommandant X. The Kommandantur was formed on 7.10.41 in Kirowgrad and was under Wehrmachtbefehlshaber Ukraine. Commandant Dulag 162 (wherever THAT was ????) Dulag 162, Nikolajew, Ukraine, Heeresgruppe Nordukraine bzw. Süd, 11.43-27.08.44. So that was the Army Group to whose Führer Reserve he initially went on 10.11.44. His 1943 and 1944 Beurteilungen weren't in his file, so I couldn't cross-check the dates and unit designations, or see if did add a KVK1X. It's possible he got one by 1944 though. I'm not sure how much merit there was in Wehrmacht handling of Soviet prisoners in Ukraine, though. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 No, no indeed! This story gets scarier and scarier! I'd expect Moscow would have wanted to ... "talk" to Colonel Böhm very very badly.... He obviously got the hell out of Dodge during the Soviet summer 1944 offensive... I was assuming a gentlemanly sort of "hometown" sort of duty up around Hanover... how on earth (that also having been the BRITISH Zone of Occupation) did this end up in the back-county over HERE? Dave---you amaze me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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