blueman Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-10499-0-43191700-1389037602.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-10499-0-01329100-1389037611.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-10499-0-01329100-1389037611.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-10499-0-53234600-1389037618.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-10499-0-05562300-1389037626.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-10499-0-73236500-1389037635.jpg hi guys i bought these thnking kreigsmarine but not sure now could they be british ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodor Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Could be Bulgarian as well. Looks similar. Interesting, several countries had very similar navy belts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueman Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 what age would they be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodor Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) The Bulgarian ones were introduced in 1905 and used until the end of the WW2 Edited January 6, 2014 by Theodor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I would say for a Naval mid-shipman - the size of the scabbard indicates a Dirk. Could be British - however, to me, it doesn't look the right pattern. Theodore may well be right and it is Bulgarian ? You could sell it to one of the new immigrants ............. Make a few more enquiries - many countries copied British naval styles. Mervyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I agree that its not quite right for British but, as you say, Mervin, lots of copies of that style - which dates back to at least 1800 BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodor Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 So, who was the first to use that style of belt and hangers? The Bulgarian ones were influenced from Russia. And not just Russia, the Germans had very similar. Probably some more countries, too? But who was the first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 It was being used by both British and French in the Napoleonic period, when I think it originated. The British went from shoulder slings to waist belts for swords in that period - both were still being used in 1810 but by 1830 only waist belts. Don't know whether the British stole it from the French or vice-versa, as my knowledge of French uniforms is sadly lacking, but I'd guess one or the other originated the style. Certainly the arrangement of straps, hook and the lions' heads are virtually indistinguishable at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Really Peter - we never copy anything.............. However, I think the British started the slings - the original mounting was onto the belt. Mervyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 As you say, Mervyn. How careless of me to have suggested it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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