gjw Posted June 8 Posted June 8 (edited) Hey all, I added these to my Hungarian collection All three grades for Police and the Bronze grade for Border Guards Stay well my friends Greg Edited June 8 by gjw 1
Megan Posted June 9 Posted June 9 Nice - you just need some Army ones now (ribbon red with a white-edged blue stripe).
gjw Posted June 10 Author Posted June 10 (edited) On 09/06/2024 at 02:52, Megan said: Nice - you just need some Army ones now (ribbon red with a white-edged blue stripe). Thanks again for the kind words! I do have a couple of the Army ones coming to me. Stay well my friend! Greg Edited June 10 by gjw
gjw Posted June 16 Author Posted June 16 Hey all, added a Gold and Bronze Armed Forces to the collection. Now to find the silver grade. Stay well my friends Greg
Megan Posted June 17 Posted June 17 Silver grades seem to be like hen's teeth - I'm struggling to even find images of them! But another nice addition to your hoard, well done!
Philip.S Posted June 17 Posted June 17 Gentlemen, As this topic is discussing Public security medals, I thought I should ask this question here: What are the differences in variations between the Rakosi-era awards, and the Kadar-era awards? I appreciate that the very earliest had "1948" inscribed on the reverse, however the revised version did not. I am deeply puzzled, as I can find no differences myself?🤷♂️ Many thanks, Philip.S
steveBobby Posted June 17 Posted June 17 1 hour ago, Philip.S said: Gentlemen, As this topic is discussing Public security medals, I thought I should ask this question here: What are the differences in variations between the Rakosi-era awards, and the Kadar-era awards? I appreciate that the very earliest had "1948" inscribed on the reverse, however the revised version did not. I am deeply puzzled, as I can find no differences myself?🤷♂️ Many thanks, Philip.S Greeting Philip.S This medal（Közbiztonsági Érem alapításáról） was established in 1951, so I think you may be confusing it with an earlier medal（Közbiztonsági Szolgálati Jel）.The latter does have 1947 engraved on the back.According to the 1951 decree, although the old medal was cancelled, the new medal could be conditionally awarded instead based on the recipient's performance or years of service. I will attach the original text of the 1951 Act below： 76/1951. (III. 17.) MT rendelet Közbiztonsági Érem alapításáról (Közigazgatási rendszám: 0.720.) 1. § (1) A Magyar Népköztársaság minisztertanácsa a közbiztonság fejlesztése körül szerzett érdemek elismerésére "Közbiztonsági Érem" alapítását határozta el. (2) A Közbiztonsági Éremnek hárem fokozata van: arany, ezüst és bronz. 2. § A Közbiztonsági Érmet a belügyminiszter adományozza. 3. § A Közbiztonsági Érem alapszabályait a belügyminiszter előterjesztésére a minisztertanács hagyja jóvá. 4. § (1) A Közbiztonsági Érem egyes fokozatainak viselési sorrendjére a Közbiztonsági Szolgálati Jelre megállapított rendelkezések irányadók. (2) A büntető és egyéb jogszabályoknak a rendjelekre vonatkozó rendelkezéseit a Közbiztonsági Éremre is alkalmazni kell. 5. § (1) A "Közbiztonsági Szolgálati Jel" alapítására vonatkozó rendelkezések hatályukat vesztik; e jelvény adományozásával szerzett jogok a jelen rendelet hatálybalépésének napjával megszűnnek. (2) Az előző bekezdésben megszüntetett "Közbiztonsági Szolgálati Jel" helyett a volt tulajdonosok részére az 1951. évi június hó 30. napjáig a jelen rendelet 1. §-ának (1) bekezdésében alapított Közbiztonsági Érem megfelelő fokozatát lehet adományozni. （This clause stipulates the replacement relationship between the new medal and the old medal） Dobi István s. k., a minisztertanács elnöke Regarding the specific differences between the medals of the Laksi era and the Kadar era, I think it is reflected in the specific manufacturing process of the medals and the external appearance caused by the manufacturing process.To better illustrate this statement, I quote a picture made by a Hungarian collector. Finally, I thought it would be useful to add to this theme some portraits of the gentlemen who received the award. Yours Steve 2
Philip.S Posted June 17 Posted June 17 Steve, That's absolutely brilliant! Many thanks! yes, you are quite right, I must have got confused between the reverse of the '47, and later versions. The diagram you attach is superb, I thank you for that as well! Many thanks, Philip.S
Gordon Craig Posted June 17 Posted June 17 SteveBobby, An excellent explanation of this award. Below is a translation of the Hungarian text above. 76/1951. (III. 17.) MT decree On the foundation of the Public Safety Medal (Administrative registration number: 0.720.) § 1 (1) The Council of Ministers of the Hungarian People's Republic decided to establish a "Public Safety Medal" to recognize merits achieved in the development of public safety. (2) The Public Safety Medal has three grades: gold, silver and bronze. § 2. The Public Security Medal is awarded by the Minister of the Interior. § 3 The basic rules of the Public Safety Medal are approved by the Council of Ministers upon submission by the Minister of the Interior. Section 4 (1) The order of wearing the individual grades of the Public Safety Medal is governed by the provisions established for the Public Safety Service Badge. (2) The provisions of the penal and other legislation regarding the insignia shall also be applied to the Public Safety Medal. Section 5 (1) The provisions regarding the establishment of the "Public Safety Service Mark" shall expire; the rights acquired by donating this badge will cease on the date of entry into force of this regulation. (2) Instead of the "Public Security Service Badge" abolished in the previous paragraph, the appropriate grade of the Public Security Medal established in § 1, paragraph (1) of this decree may be awarded to the former owners until June 30, 1951. （This clause stipulates the replacement relationship between the new medal and the old medal） István Dobi s. k., the president of the council of ministers Regards, Gordon 3
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